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Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby jdege on Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:51 am

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20170920/reuniting-the-united-states-with-reciprocity
Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity
Most concealed-carry permit holders understand the potential pitfalls of traveling with a firearm, given the outrageous patchwork of state laws involved in even a short interstate trip. And while we haven’t posted much about reciprocity of late, important national concealed-carry reciprocity legislation is still in play and needs your help now to gain passage.

According to a recent update from NRA-ILA, U.S. Rep. Rob Goodlatte, R-Va., who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, has signed on as a co-sponsor for the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017. H.R. 38 now has 212 co-sponsors, and according to NRA-ILA, its prospects in the House are looking better each week.

Of course, you wouldn’t know that from reading or listening to the so-called “mainstream” media, who have declared the measure a danger to the nation. And you wouldn’t know it from Michael Bloomberg and his gun-ban minions, who have recently proclaimed victory and declared the measure dead.
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby Lumpy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:00 pm

I can't see anti states like California, New York or Maryland accepting it: almost certainly it would be appealed all the way to the SCOTUS, which despite Heller and McDonald has been extraordinarily reluctant to strike down any but the most egregious gun bans.The antis would claim that it more or less nullified state gun control laws (true enough).
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby Rotary12 on Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:24 pm

But it doesn't, you are still subjected to the states gun laws, they just have to accepts all other states permits like they have to accept every other states drivers licenses.
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby MJY65 on Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:38 pm

This is really only going to help in places that were already OK. No way in heck I'd try to memorize all the intricacies of some REALLY restrictive state's laws. Just asking for trouble.

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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:15 pm

Rotary12 wrote:But it doesn't, you are still subjected to the states gun laws, they just have to accepts all other states permits like they have to accept every other states drivers licenses.

If that were the case, you'd have 2 different sets of laws. One for residents and another for non-resident permit holders.

If this bill were to pass, and I don't think it will, it will be declared un-Constitutional in about 10 minutes.

On the other hand, it would be fun to watch the most liberal jurists and their allies magically turning into "states rights" advocates.
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:29 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:
Rotary12 wrote:But it doesn't, you are still subjected to the states gun laws, they just have to accepts all other states permits like they have to accept every other states drivers licenses.

If that were the case, you'd have 2 different sets of laws. One for residents and another for non-resident permit holders.

If this bill were to pass, and I don't think it will, it will be declared un-Constitutional in about 10 minutes.

On the other hand, it would be fun to watch the most liberal jurists and their allies magically turning into "states rights" advocates.

Huh? How is it 2 sets of gun laws?
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby Rotary12 on Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:15 pm

If all the states adhered to the Constitution, then we would not need carry permits, ever.
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby Greg on Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:54 pm

The Strib "Editorial Board" just cut and pasted a screed from "Protect Minnesota". It's the usual sky is falling drivel....


More idiocy on guns, thanks to the NRA and U.S. House


http://www.startribune.com/more-idiocy- ... 462899033/
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:00 am

Holland&Holland wrote:Huh? How is it 2 sets of gun laws?

In a jurisdiction like NYC for example, one rule for the non-politically connected, ie the un-washed masses. Another for non-resident permit holders.

Another example might a resident of a Constitutional carry state, who doesn't need a permit, in a jurisdiction which requires a permit like Minnesota.
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:01 am

Rotary12 wrote:If all the states adhered to the Constitution, then we would not need carry permits, ever.

Exactly. :exactly: :iagree:
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Re: Reuniting The United States With Reciprocity

Postby andrewP on Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:32 pm

Greg wrote:http://www.startribune.com/more-idiocy-on-guns-thanks-to-the-nra-and-u-s-house/462899033/


Gotta love this quote from the article:
Twelve states currently have unrestricted concealed-carry laws. Just about anyone in those states, regardless of mental health status and criminal background, can pack a pistol.


Yeah, regardless of the things that might make a person FEDERALLY PROHIBITED from possessing a firearm, sure, ANYONE can carry. :p
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