GOA-Backed Language Passes House, Removes Suppressors from N

[jdege]

https://www.gunowners.org/na052225/
VICTORY: GOA-Backed Language Passes House, Removes Suppressors from NFA!

Early this morning, the House of Representatives passed a budget reconciliation bill that contains a GOA-backed amendment which completely removes suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).

[...]

We’re continuing to push for the full delisting of SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs—so that anti-gun presidents like Joe Biden can never again weaponize the NFA against law-abiding Americans.

But now that GOA-backed language delisting suppressors is officially in Trump’s reconciliation bill, it’s heading to the Senate. And that’s where your help is needed more than ever.

[Ranb]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-con ... ill/1/text

SEC. 112030. REDUCTION OF EXCISE TAX ON FIREARMS SILENCERS.

(a) In General.--Section 5811(a) is amended to read as follows:
``(a) Rate.--There shall be levied, collected, and paid on firearms
transferred a tax at the rate of--
``(1) $5 for each firearm transferred in the case of a
weapon classified as any other weapon under section 5845(e),
``(2) $0 for each firearm transferred in the case of a
silencer (as defined in section 5845(a)(7)), and
``(3) $200 for any other firearm transferred.''.
(b) Effective Date.--The amendment made by this section shall apply
to transfers after the date of the enactment of this Act.

While the word "silencer" is mentioned three times in the bill, it is only to reduce the tax from $200 to $0. As far as I know, silencers would still be regulated as usual.

There is lots not to like in that bill. https://thehill.com/business/5311628-ri ... cuts-bill/

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https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text

SEC. 112030. REDUCTION OF EXCISE TAX ON FIREARMS SILENCERS.

(a) In General.--Section 5811(a) is amended to read as follows:
``(a) Rate.--There shall be levied, collected, and paid on firearms
transferred a tax at the rate of--
``(1) $5 for each firearm transferred in the case of a
weapon classified as any other weapon under section 5845(e),
``(2) $0 for each firearm transferred in the case of a
silencer (as defined in section 5845(a)(7)), and
``(3) $200 for any other firearm transferred.''.
(b) Effective Date.--The amendment made by this section shall apply
to transfers after the date of the enactment of this Act.

While the word "silencer" is mentioned three times in the bill, it is only to reduce the tax from $200 to $0. As far as I know, silencers would still be regulated as usual.

There is lots not to like in that bill. https://thehill.com/business/5311628-ri ... cuts-bill/

It appears you’re being sent stale talking points.

Today’s news:
https://www.gunowners.org/na052225/
“…
This week, GOA’s Erich Pratt (left) met with gun rights champion Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA) to discuss strategy on passing 2A reforms in the House.
Early this morning, the House of Representatives passed a budget reconciliation bill that contains a GOA-backed amendment which completely removes suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).…”


Try to keep up

[Ranb]

I was not sent anything. I simply looked up HR-1, here; https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-con ... use-bill/1

Can you show me where it removes silencers from the NFA? I did not see it.

[jdege]

GOA was complaining loudly that the silencer language had been modified to remove the fee but leave the registration requirement place.

That's the language on the House website.

Then they announced that their original language had been restored.

Either that change hasn't been updated on the website, yet, or they were lied to.

[Ranb]

Today’s news:
https://www.gunowners.org/na052225/
“…
This week, GOA’s Erich Pratt (left) met with gun rights champion Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA) to discuss strategy on passing 2A reforms in the House.
Early this morning, the House of Representatives passed a budget reconciliation bill that contains a GOA-backed amendment which completely removes suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).…”

Try to keep up

Here is the link they supplied. https://rules.house.gov/sites/evo-subsi ... rh_xml.pdf

‘‘(a) R ATE .—There shall be levied, collected, and paid15
on firearms transferred a tax at the rate of—16
‘‘(1) $5 for each firearm transferred in the case17
of a weapon classified as any other weapon under18
section 5845(e),19
‘‘(2) $0 for each firearm transferred in the case20
of a silencer (as defined in section 5845(a)(7)), and21
‘‘(3) $200 for any other firearm transferred.’’.22
(b) E FFECTIVE DATE .—The amendment made by23
this section shall apply to transfers after the date of the24
enactment of this Act.25

$0 tax, same regulations. What are you missing?

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Today’s news:
https://www.gunowners.org/na052225/
“…
This week, GOA’s Erich Pratt (left) met with gun rights champion Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA) to discuss strategy on passing 2A reforms in the House.
Early this morning, the House of Representatives passed a budget reconciliation bill that contains a GOA-backed amendment which completely removes suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).…”

Try to keep up

Here is the link they supplied. https://rules.house.gov/sites/evo-subsi ... rh_xml.pdf

‘‘(a) R ATE .—There shall be levied, collected, and paid15
on firearms transferred a tax at the rate of—16
‘‘(1) $5 for each firearm transferred in the case17
of a weapon classified as any other weapon under18
section 5845(e),19
‘‘(2) $0 for each firearm transferred in the case20
of a silencer (as defined in section 5845(a)(7)), and21
‘‘(3) $200 for any other firearm transferred.’’.22
(b) E FFECTIVE DATE .—The amendment made by23
this section shall apply to transfers after the date of the24
enactment of this Act.25

$0 tax, same regulations. What are you missing?

Something I am not missing is the time stamps on outdated postings (at least one of which is a week old) you've referenced of HR 1 before the bill was finalized.

That was then.
This is now:

White House.gov

22 May 2025
President Donald J. Trump’s One, Big, Beautiful Bill — a once-in-a-generation opportunity to cement an America First agenda of prosperity, opportunity, and security into law — is one step closer to the finish line following its passage by the House of Representatives.

Here’s what they’re saying about the One, Big, Beautiful Bill:
....
NRA Institute for Legislative Action Executive Director John Commerford: “This morning, the U.S. House of Representatives passed President Trump’s One, Big, Beautiful Bill, which includes the complete removal of suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA). This represents a monumental victory for Second Amendment rights, eliminating burdensome regulations on the purchase of critical hearing protection devices. The NRA thanks the House members who supported this bill and urges its swift passage in the U.S. Senate.
.....”

House passes 'One Big Beautiful Bill,' completely removes suppressors from NFA - Buckeye Firearms Ascn.

by Joe D. "Buck" Ruth
10:10am Thursday, May 22, 2025

In a historic vote early Thursday morning, May 22, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R.1, known as the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act," effectively eliminating suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934.

On May 14, the House Committee on Ways and Means completed a markup of the reconciliation bill, reducing the tax on suppressors from $200 to $0. However, even in that form, suppressors would still have been subject to other NFA regulations.

In response, Buckeye Firearms Association joined a coalition of organizations nationwide in signing an open letter to two House committees, urging Congress to eliminate unjust restrictions imposed by the NFA. The letter pushed for broader reforms, including the removal of firearm suppressors, short-barreled rifles, and short-barreled shotguns from the NFA's regulatory framework.

After an intense 20-hour markup hearing in the Republican-controlled House Rules Committee late Wednesday night, the House this morning narrowly approved the bill in a 215-214 vote. The legislation now moves to the Senate, with Section 2 of the Hearing Protection Act securing the complete removal of suppressors from the NFA...

I know how pleased you must be.
You're welcome.

[jdege]

I'm still not seeing the removal language on the website.

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I'm still not seeing the removal language on the website.

It could be a colossal ruse, I suppose; but given the competing interests are all confirming the same information, and would lose their credibility if caught in a lie, what that would accomplish is beyond me.
Another possibility is that it is a huge document, and a holiday week(end) in DC…

As the NRA, GOA, etc have been reporting, there was an early morning vote, on Thursday, passing HR 1, by 1 vote.
I cannot find text of the bill time stamped at, or after the final passage vote.

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes

[Ranb]

I know how pleased you must be.
You're welcome.

I am entirely not pleased with how WhiteHouse.gov merely quotes the NRA. I am equally unimpressed with the Buckeye link which says silencers are removed from the NFA, but the link they provide goes to H.R.-1, which says it only reduces the tax from $200 to $0.

While I would really like to see silencers removed from the NFA, I'm not seeing anything from an actual bill/amendment that says this.

[jdege]

William Kirk seems to suggest that just zeroing out the tax will move silencers from Form 4 to Form 4473.

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William Kirk seems to suggest that just zeroing out the tax will move silencers from Form 4 to Form 4473.

>>>YouTube link snipped <<<

I have a struggle buying that.

It's hard to believe anything so significant would happen by default, and those who were pushing the elimination of the tax to $0 would have been previously touting it.

If someone had a 2A friendly US Rep - and I do not - they could perhaps contact their congressman, and get a real-time status update.

[Rip Van Winkle]

I have to admit to only half listing to WK's video while doing other things. I think what he was arguing was that by only repealing the tax, the bill could be attached to the budget reconciliation bill and passed by simple majority vote in the Senate. To remove silencers from the NFA would require a separate bill which would die in the Senate because of the "cloture rule".

[xd ED]

I have to admit to only half listing to WK's video while doing other things. I think what he was arguing was that by only repealing the tax, the bill could be attached to the budget reconciliation bill and passed by simple majority vote in the Senate. To remove silencers from the NFA would require a separate bill which would die in the Senate because of the "cloture rule".

That is indeed, the argument he is making, and that seems reasonable.

What I have trouble believing is the following, which starts around 3:50:

"….all we’re really doing here is we’re saying is the item is still being regulated the same way but no longer subject to the tax stamp, and since it's no longer subject to the tax stamp it is not regulated as an NFA item, nor will we use NFA documents to accumulate the items…."

[Ranb]

I do not think that reducing the tax to $0 is the same as no longer regulating silencers as an NFA item. Nothing in HR-1 that I read, says this.

The ATF form 1 is for tax paid and tax exempt firearms. The ATF form 5 is a tax free transfer which can be used by non-licensed persons, such as to an heir.