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OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:38 pm
by captnviper
"The administration is reworking the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). One of the many things regulated by ITAR are “technical data” tied to “defense articles.” This includes, but is not limited to, “detailed design, development, production or manufacturing information” about ammunition and firearms."
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -coverage/?
Anybody hear anything else on this. Said to regulate reloading forums.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:48 pm
by Hmac
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-g ... le/2565762

Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning.

In updating regulations governing international arms sales, State is demanding that anyone who puts technical details about arms and ammo on the web first get the OK from the federal government — or face a fine of up to $1 million and 20 years in jail.

According to the NRA, that would include blogs and web forums discussing technical details of common guns and ammunition, the type of info gun owners and ammo reloaders trade all the time.

"Gunsmiths, manufacturers, reloaders, and do-it-yourselfers could all find themselves muzzled under the rule and unable to distribute or obtain the information they rely on to conduct these activities," said the NRA in a blog posting.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:27 am
by Bearcatrp
Sounds like a freedom of speech issue that will kill his wishes. What a bunch of BS. What next, cannot post about your favorite sexual position.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:39 am
by goett047
Sounds like NRA fear mongering

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:48 am
by photogpat
goett047 wrote:Sounds like NRA fear mongering


Whatever fills the donation box...

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:19 pm
by hornswaggle
I wonder when the liberal biased media will catch on that their favorite elected official who so openly tries to repeal the 2nd amendment is also attacking their prized 1st amendment.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:27 pm
by Thunder71
hornswaggle wrote:I wonder when the liberal biased media will catch on that their favorite elected official who so openly tries to repeal the 2nd amendment is also attacking their prized 1st amendment.

After it's gone.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:28 pm
by Lumpy
Is ITAR the "gun treaty" that generated so much controversy? I was concerned that some broadly worded innocuous-sounding provision of the treaty could be interpreted to allow unforeseen domestic gun regulations; this sure sounds like it.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:07 pm
by Hmac
Lumpy wrote:Is ITAR the "gun treaty" that generated so much controversy?


No.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:52 pm
by MaryB
The liberal media controlled by a select few who support socialism and the downfall of the USA? They are in on it!


hornswaggle wrote:I wonder when the liberal biased media will catch on that their favorite elected official who so openly tries to repeal the 2nd amendment is also attacking their prized 1st amendment.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:09 am
by mrp
The day the government takes down the glorious shovel AK page is the day we rise up, comrades.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulle ... mi-warning!

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:42 pm
by Josh189
goett047 wrote:Sounds like NRA fear mongering

Should we ignore it then?...

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:16 am
by dronning
Apathy is a fast track to loss of freedoms, I'd rather have the NRA bird dogging any potential infringement on our rights than not.

Without the legitimate gun rights groups we'd probably only be allowed to carry a six shooter with one bullet in our shirt pocket!

A seemingly harmless toe in the door can turn into a home invasion, best not to let the door open. - I know strange analogy.

- Dave

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:10 am
by harryset
hornswaggle wrote:I wonder when the liberal biased media will catch on that their favorite elected official who so openly tries to repeal the 2nd amendment is also attacking their prized 1st amendment.


It's acceptable, to the progressives, to bypass the 1st amendment, in order to attack anything they don't approve of.

Re: OBAMA TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS WITH ‘GAG ORDER’ ON FIREARM COV

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:24 am
by george
:bow: Obama's Will . :bow: Obama the GREAT . :bow: To his will you infidel .
It's going to be a long 556 days 13 Hrs