HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

[RobD]

Carver county folks, we need your help NOW.


There is an announcement coming.

[Thunder71]

Email sent.

[RobD]

Email sent.

Please call as well if you can... She could kill it... today.

[Scott Notaeh]

How does one senator prevent a vote? Just wondering.

[RobD]

How does one senator prevent a vote? Just wondering.

Trying to get "Rules and Administration" to send it to a conference committee before a vote. We have until EOD tomorrow to get a vote heard, in order to have a shot at a veto override. (Dayton has 3 days to veto). If it goes to committee, it's very unlikely that it will be heard on the floor, with enough time to organize a veto override.

[Thunder71]

Left a message.

[DanM]

Just spoke with the Senator's administrative assistant. She was cordial and promised to convey my request that SF1357 come to a vote as soon as possible. I gave her my name and address so that she knows that Sen. Ortman is my senator.

[plblark]

thank you!

[Scott Notaeh]

How does one senator prevent a vote? Just wondering.

Trying to get "Rules and Administration" to send it to a conference committee before a vote. We have until EOD tomorrow to get a vote heard, in order to have a shot at a veto override. (Dayton has 3 days to veto). If it goes to committee, it's very unlikely that it will be heard on the floor, with enough time to organize a veto override.

Now I am really confused. Didn't Ortman vote for this in the Committee on Judiciary and Public Safety? Why is she trying to kill it now? And this bill already passed through the Committee on Rules and Administration once. I would never make it in politics.

[RobD]

Now I am really confused. Didn't Ortman vote for this in the Committee on Judiciary and Public Safety? Why is she trying to kill it now? And this bill already passed through the Committee on Rules and Administration once. I would never make it in politics.

On top of that.. she made some excellent comments about respecting gun rights, though she herself has never owned or even fired a gun...

It's all puppet theater.. all that changes is who's pulling the strings

[Geezer43]

It's all puppet theater.. all that changes is who's pulling the strings

EXACTLY.

[selurcspi]

I sent an email


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As I've already been outed for sending the Email to Senator Ortman, I may as well post it.

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Dear Senator Ortman,

I understand you have some reservations about Senator Gretchen Hoffman's Defense of Dwelling and Person Act of 2011.
As a Chaska resident, I’d like to understand why you are not comfortable supporting this bill. You had previously stated to me that you were in favour of the private citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment rights and for some reason you are not in favour of this expansion of the MCPPA to something that conforms a little closer to the 2nd Amendment itself.

This Bill adds several important changes to the law which will increase our safety without jeopardizing the general public; namely the removal of the requirement to retreat when assaulted either on the street or in our own property but not inside our dwelling. In an assault, there are only a few scant seconds to evaluate the situation and react correctly. A Decision on how to retreat is one that will place the victim at a further disadvantage, and perhaps cost the life of an innocent, when having to defend one’s self or loved ones from attack.

The bill also provides legal protection from firearms seizures in the case of a state of emergency. As we both saw in New Orleans, when societal norms break down, people revert to the more base instincts. The violence wreaked on New Orleans by the viler elements after Hurricane Katrina was awful, encompassing even the police force, several of whom were caught on camera looting along with the mob. This fact alone requires that the citizenry be armed for their own protection; notwithstanding that 40% of the police force abandoned their jobs and left the populace to fend for itself.

I don’t know if you travel to other states, but anyone who does must jump through hoops to be able to remain armed and adding the universal acceptance of other states permits would go a long way to reducing this bureaucracy in order to travel unrestricted by allowing for reciprocity among the permit issuing states. The straw man argument about other states not having similar permit laws to Minnesota holds about as much water as the same argument for driving licenses not being accepted nationwide. Incidentally, vastly larger numbers of people are killed on our roads each year than those killed by firearms.

Lastly the changes in the permit to purchase a handgun needs to be overhauled to preclude activist police chiefs from denying permits or taking months and much cajoling to pry a permit out of the Chief’s hands, solely because that Chief believes that firearms do not belong in the hands of an individual citizen. What is needed is a penalty that can be enforced by law to ensure those issuing these permits (which have not provided any measure of restraint against the law breakers among us) do so in a reasonable amount of time without inconveniencing the law abiding public.

I hope you will do me the courtesy of outlining your reservations on a point by point basis so that I can understand why you are not standing behind this bill.

Many Thanks

Selurcspi

[Hammer99...]

Done.

[JoeH]

I left a voice mail this morning. All of her office lines must have been full.

[selurcspi]

Senator Ortman has so far receive just shy of 400 emails on this subject, we need to light up the electrons folks!