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Fred Thompson write in

Postby cobb on Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:52 am

There are some of us that are planning to write in Fred Thompson when we vote because the other likely options stink on the Republican ticket.

But what about Ron Paul? What little I have heard on the surface sounds good, but does he have a history of flip flopping or just making hot topic statements and then they are never heard again or acted on?

Any Ron Paul thoughts or comments?
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby Jeff Bergquist on Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:54 am

Ron Paul is a retired ob/gyn, and a staunch libertarian leaning constitutionalist, and as far as I know always has been. They call him Dr. No in the House for his voting record on government initiatives. He's by far my favorite candidate... too bad he has a snowball's chance in hell of actually winning.
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby JFettig on Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:22 am

+1

I think that if the media didn't trash him so much he would have had a better chance because people would have looked into him.


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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby someone1980 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:59 am

JFettig wrote:+1

I think that if the media didn't trash him so much he would have had a better chance because people would have looked into him.


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Hmm really interesting that the two candidates that I liked were both worked on by the media. Then when McCain had a good night last night CNN was all happy about it.

Look at where Ron Paul was popular last night, MT, ND and MN. And look where McCain was popular CA and NY. Does that tell you anything?
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby cobb on Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:07 am

someone1980 wrote: And look where McCain was popular CA and NY. Does that tell you anything?
Yes, the people in CA and NY are stupider than I previously thought. :poundon:
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby JoeH on Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:06 am

I was a Fred guy too. However, I won't write in a person who doesn't want the job.
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby meltedeyes on Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:45 am

cobb wrote:There are some of us that are planning to write in Fred Thompson when we vote because the other likely options stink on the Republican ticket.

But what about Ron Paul? What little I have heard on the surface sounds good, but does he have a history of flip flopping or just making hot topic statements and then they are never heard again or acted on?

Any Ron Paul thoughts or comments?


He is very consistent in his voting record. If anything is contrary to the constitution he's against it. this includes gun control, invasion of privacy, wire-tapping, etc.

There is some controversy about racism, homophobia and anti-pagan, largely due to some newsletters written in the early 90's that had his name on them. But for someone who is so pro personal freedom, this doesn't ring true. If he denied you the option to worship Odin he would be denying you your personal freedom (the ability to make a choice as to how you live) but is also against the constitution (freedom of religion anyone?) There is also some talk about his personal beliefs (pro-life) being enforced on everybody else. But he has also consistently stated that it's not the federal governments decision and to leave that up to the states to decide for themselves.

He is also anti-IRS and would like to abolish that organization as illegal and contrary to how the government should collect taxes.

I'm no Ron Paul expert, nor do I study politics or spend the time memorizing everything. But this is a basic background based on my understanding.

And yes, I voted for him last night and I will be again.
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby cobb on Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:45 am

JoeH wrote:I was a Fred guy too. However, I won't write in a person who doesn't want the job.

I think he wanted the job, just not willing to sell his soul.
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby nyffman on Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:49 am

I'm kinda with Joe on this one. It was real refreshing to see a candidate who wasn't after the job like his whole life depended on it. Just look at Clinton. She's appears to be killing herself trying to get this job. I think Fred was really in it for the right reasons, not for his own glorification. But now that he's dropped out, it's time to move on. AS far as Paul, he initially gave me a negative impression with his passionate disavowal of the war effort. However, considering all the available choices, he's looking better.
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby rucker on Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:35 am

cobb wrote:There are some of us that are planning to write in Fred Thompson when we vote because the other likely options stink on the Republican ticket.

But what about Ron Paul? What little I have heard on the surface sounds good, but does he have a history of flip flopping or just making hot topic statements and then they are never heard again or acted on?

Any Ron Paul thoughts or comments?


Flip flopping? He's more like a broken record :lol: :lol: :lol:

Check him out: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

edit: For some comedic value check this out. A video from 1988 with Dr. Paul expressing the need for personal responsibility and liberty: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=88REf0tjZHo
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby rucker on Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:59 am

Here are some of Dr. Paul's recently introduced legislation:

H.R. 2424: Citizens Protection Act of 2007 - Citizens Protection Act of 2007 - Repeals provisions of the federal criminal code that prohibit the possession of a firearm in a school zone. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xp ... ab=summary

H.R. 3835: To restore the Constitution's checks and balances and protections against government abuses as envisioned by the Founding Fathers - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xp ... ab=summary

H.R. 1096: Second Amendment Protection Act of 2007 - Repeals the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and the Federal Firearms License Reform Act of 1993. Restores and revives any provisions amended or repealed by such Acts as if such Acts had not been enacted.
Repeals provisions of the Internal Revenue Code and the federal criminal code distinguishing firearms used or suitable for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes from firearms used generally.
Repeals the Child Safety Lock Act of 2005 and other provisions of the federal criminal code relating to gun storage and gun safety devices. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xp ... ab=summary

H.R. 1146: American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2007
- Repeals the United Nations Participation Act of 1945 and other specified related laws. Directs the President to terminate U.S. participation in the United Nations, including any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other affiliated body. Requires closure of the U.S. Mission to the United Nations.
Prohibits: (1) the authorization of funds for the U.S. assessed or voluntary contribution to the United Nations; (2) the authorization of funds for any U.S. contribution to any U.N. military operation; and (3) the expenditure of funds to support the participation of U.S. Armed Forces as part of any U.N. military or peacekeeping operation. Bars U.S. Armed Forces from serving under U.N. command. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xp ... ab=summary

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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby Pat Cannon on Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:12 pm

I suspect I'll be writing in Ron Paul. There's a fair amount of stuff he and I disagree on, but the key issue is he's not the statist that pretty much every other candidate is, that is: while the other candidates are arguing about which is the correct way we need be told how to live, Dr. Paul says most of it is not the government's business.

Arlo Guthrie (yes, the Alice's Restaurant guy) said, "Dr. Paul is the only candidate I know of who would have signed the Constitution of The United States had he been there."
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby Pat on Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:03 pm

cobb wrote:
someone1980 wrote: And look where McCain was popular CA and NY. Does that tell you anything?
Yes, the people in CA and NY are stupider than I previously thought. :poundon:


Improbable, yet certainly possible.

But let's just give the cake to the Californians...
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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby Burnsville Guy on Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:48 pm

cobb wrote:
JoeH wrote:I was a Fred guy too. However, I won't write in a person who doesn't want the job.

I think he wanted the job, just not willing to sell his soul.


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Re: Fred Thompson write in

Postby Pinnacle on Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:52 am

cobb wrote:
JoeH wrote:I was a Fred guy too. However, I won't write in a person who doesn't want the job.

I think he wanted the job, just not willing to sell his soul.


It was his for the taking and he fell very short of the mark. I will not waste a vote on writing someone in that didnt care in the first place.

I think that we better resign ourselves to the fact that McCain will be the RINO Candidate.
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