The racist Ron Paul... wait, no.

[SparkyJeff]

James Williams of Matagorda County, Texas recounts a touching true story. Living in a still prejudice Texas In 1972, his wife had a complication with her pregnancy. No doctors would care for her or deliver their bi-racial child. In fact one of the hospital nurses called the police on James.

Dr. Ron Paul was notified and took her in, delivering their stillborn baby. Because of the compassion of Dr. Ron Paul, the Williams' never received a hospital bill for the delivery.

[Eric Marleau]

I'm sure he is a good guy.
I just don't agree with his far left views on drugs, the Military, protecting Israel, or foreign affairs.
His views about 9-11 are also repugnant to me.

He also seems a tad goofy when he gets on a rant about those things. Doesn't look too cool.

For me, it's either Romney, Newt, or Perry.

That is my say, and I will say no more.
Posts seem to get a little personal and not very smart with disagreements around here.

Eric

[mnmike59]

I'm sure he is a good guy.
I just don't agree with his far left views on drugs, the Military, protecting Israel, or foreign affairs.
His views about 9-11 are also repugnant to me.

He also seems a tad goofy when he gets on a rant about those things. Doesn't look too cool.

For me, it's either Romney, Newt, or Perry.

That is my say, and I will say no more.
Posts seem to get a little personal and not very smart with disagreements around here.

Eric

Your opinion is cool with me! Ron Paul is right on with many issues as far as I'm concerned, but he misses a bit on his foreign policy.
I'm curious about your statement on his 911 views. I haven't heard any???

[gyrfalcon]

I'm sure he is a good guy.
I just don't agree with his far left views on drugs, the Military, protecting Israel, or foreign affairs.
His views about 9-11 are also repugnant to me.
He also seems a tad goofy when he gets on a rant about those things. Doesn't look too cool.
For me, it's either Romney, Newt, or Perry...

So anyone but Ron Paul because you're an establishment Republican and would rather have an anti-gun moderate...

A decade ago President George W. Bush chose arrogance over humility as his foreign policy. Since then virtually every Republican presidential candidates has embraced his philosophy of endless war: in effect, the GOP mantra is "we're all neoconservatives now." Only Paul (and Gary Johnson, excluded from most of the debates) challenge America's role as a de facto empire. Paul observed that conservatives enjoyed spending money, only "on different things. They like embassies, and they like occupation. They like the empire. They like to be in 135 countries and 700 bases."

[Eric Marleau]

Actually, I'm an Independent Conservative who thinks for himself.
I vote Pro-Life, and Pro-Gun and strong Military, but won't support candidates that are two steps to the right of Attila the Hun either. {Mike Huckabee is my favorite person, but isn't running}

Growing up in Ely, and being a Miner, I voted pretty much for our Democratic Candidates. All were Pro-Life, Pro-Gun and Pro-Labor. {Doug Johnson from Tower was THE BEST!}

Down here, I haven't seen a Democrat that is worth a pile of dung:-(

I've been an NRA Life Member since 1975, and have taught DNR Firearms Safety for 37 years.

I also use my real name instead of an alias on forums.

I've always been a direct type of person.

I respect other folks views, even if I don't happen to agree with them, and I don't toss mud around either.
Never have been a name caller. Out grew it when I was a kid.

Happy New Year, and God Bless to All!!

Eric

[gyrfalcon]

Actually, I'm an Independent Conservative who thinks for himself.
I vote Pro-Life, and Pro-Gun and strong Military...Eric

How you can be thinking for yourself and ranking a candidate like Romney or Newt above Paul on the above issues? On the Pro-Gun / 2nd Amendment front he blows the other candidates out of the water:

Ron Paul has a long track record of supporting the Constitution. He has a fierce support of the Second Amendment. He is the only candidate who says that the ATF is unconstitutional and should be disbanded. He wants to repeal ALL federal gun control laws. Ron Paul recognizes that the Second Amendment is there to protect us from a tyranical government (not just for hunting ducks). If you were going to vote based on a single issue, and that issue was the Second Amendment, Ron Paul would need to be your candidate.

Paul is also Pro-Life but doesn't want the Federal government involved in legislating it: http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/abortion/

As for a strong military, I suppose you can make a case that's it's better to have it deployed all over world in various conflicts... but lets just focus on two of the three things you claim to vote for.

[nyffman]

I'm sure he is a good guy.
I just don't agree with his far left views on drugs, the Military, protecting Israel, or foreign affairs.
His views about 9-11 are also repugnant to me.

He also seems a tad goofy when he gets on a rant about those things. Doesn't look too cool.

For me, it's either Romney, Newt, or Perry.

That is my say, and I will say no more.
Posts seem to get a little personal and not very smart with disagreements around here.

Eric

Your opinion is cool with me! Ron Paul is right on with many issues as far as I'm concerned, but he misses a bit on his foreign policy.
I'm curious about your statement on his 911 views. I haven't heard any???

Here is an article written by a former staffer of Paul's. He doesn't seem to bear any real malice toward Paul, so at this point, I'll take what he is saying at face value. His discussion about Paul's 9/11 position is toward the end. http://rightwingnews.com/election-2012/ ... eedfetcher

[S.A.]

James Williams of Matagorda County, Texas recounts a touching true story. Living in a still prejudice Texas In 1972, his wife had a complication with her pregnancy. No doctors would care for her or deliver their bi-racial child. In fact one of the hospital nurses called the police on James.

Dr. Ron Paul was notified and took her in, delivering their stillborn baby. Because of the compassion of Dr. Ron Paul, the Williams' never received a hospital bill for the delivery.

That video is nice but it does nothing to negate the vile things printed in the newsletters Paul published in his own name.

Best case scenario is that Paul didn't write or read any of those things. This means he is an incompetent manger who allowed things to go out with him name on them without checking them. We want someone as president who can't handle a newsletter?

Worst case scenario, since Paul doesn't seem to be racist, is that he cynically was attempting to create political alliances between libertarians and white supremacists. I don't think I need to elaborate why this is undesirable in a presidential nominee.

Libertarian minded folks hitched their wagon to the wrong star: someone who wasn't fully vetted, someone who has a near cult of personality surrounding him, someone who is promising revolutionary change, someone with no real governing experience at making change happen.... Say that sounds a lot like another politician I know!

[gyrfalcon]

Here is an article written by a former staffer of Paul's. He doesn't seem to bear any real malice toward Paul, so at this point, I'll take what he is saying at face value. His discussion about Paul's 9/11 position is toward the end...

Yeah no real malice..."Eric Dondero is a disgruntled former staffer who was fired for performance issues," Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said in an emailed response to Hotsheet responding to the column. "He has zero credibility and should not be taken seriously."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... rael-gays/

"I believe that Israel is one of our most important friends in the world. And the views that I hold have many adherents in Israel today," Paul was quoted as saying by Haaretz."

Can we stop with the bull now?

[gyrfalcon]

Best case scenario is that Paul didn't write or read any of those things. This means he is an incompetent manger who allowed things to go out with him name on them without checking them. We want someone as president who can't handle a newsletter?

Are you for real? We have Senators as old as Ron Paul who were members of the KKK, yet don't come under as much scrutiny or flack as he's getting for a news letter published over 20 years ago...


Libertarian minded folks hitched their wagon to exactly the right star. A star that has over 30 years in congress proving himself.

[SparkyJeff]

Are you for real? We have Senators as old as Ron Paul who were member of the KKK, yet don't come under as much scrutiny or flack as he's getting for a news letter published over 20 years ago...


Libertarian minded folks hitched their wagon to exactly the right star. A star that has over 30 years in congress proving himself.

I have been told "You only encounter flak while you are over the target."

[infidel]

It cracks me up that people ignore the obvious and try to discredit people who use Ron's own words against him. Ron can not escape the **** he has said, yet people want to say he did not say what he even admitted to saying two days ago. Hate to burst your bubble, but for twenty years he denies that he wrote that tripe, yet he admitted to it two days ago. I know people that want Ron for Pres will ignore what was printed under his name, I will not drink that Kool-Aid.

[SparkyJeff]

Ron can not escape the **** he has said, yet people want to say he did not say what he even admitted to saying two days ago.

Could you share your source?

[infidel]

Ron can not escape the **** he has said, yet people want to say he did not say what he even admitted to saying two days ago.

Could you share your source?

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/29/p ... bad-parts/

[SparkyJeff]

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/29/paul-i-did-write-parts-of-the-newsletters-but-not-the-bad-parts/

I'm not familiar with hotair.com But it sounds like they feel the same way I do.

YOUR source says

Paul: I did write parts of the newsletters, but not the bad parts
...
PAUL: Well, the newsletters were written, you know, a long time ago. And I wrote a certain portion of them. I would write the economics. So a lot of what you just mentioned... his would be material that I would turn in, and it would become part of the letter. But there were many times when I didn't edit the whole letter, and things got put in. And I didn't even really become aware of the details of that until many years later when somebody else called and said, you know what was in it? But these were sentences that were put in, a total of eight or ten sentences, and it was bad stuff. It wasn't a reflection of my views at all. So it got in the letter, I thought it was terrible, it was tragic, you know and I had some responsibility for it, because name went on the letter. But I was not an editor. ...

This is pretty much the same answer Ron Paul has given every time he is asked about those newsletters.
I thought you had something new to share.