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Amending the MN Constitution to include RKBA :)

Postby pacificbob on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:39 am

http://www.saf.org/constitutions.html#With

We share a status with
California,
New York,
New Jersey,
Maryland,
Iowa
That is no state constitution RKBA.

Within 5 Months of Pearl Harbor we bombed Tokyo and went from defense to offense.
Once the dust has settled after this round of BS we need to take the offense and amend the MN
Constitution. Could it be on the ballot (with Senator Franken) on November 4, 2014.

Discuss
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Postby Heffay on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:41 am

How will you get it on the ballot if the MN house and senate are owned by the democrats?
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Postby MNIceMan on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:42 am

Heffay wrote:How will you get it on the ballot if the MN house and senate are owned by the democrats?

We have you to help with that.
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Re: Amending the MN Constitution to include RKBA :)

Postby Heffay on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:44 am

MNIceMan wrote:
Heffay wrote:How will you get it on the ballot if the MN house and senate are owned by the democrats?

We have you to help with that.


But I'm not a Minnesota resident anymore. I'm just a visitor now.
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Re: Amending the MN Constitution to include RKBA :)

Postby pacificbob on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:02 am

I think it needs to be hung around the neck of Al Franken. The MCPPA of 2003 took 15 years, this could too, and it should be seen as the Push-Back to the current BS.
It's something specific to badger the politicians with. Which politician wants to be on the list of 'opponents of MN Right to Keep & Bear Arms" ? If there is a campaign to include 2nd Amendment protections to the Mn Constitution it's something to badger Franken with. We need to go to offense instead of just defense. The Doolittle Raid on Tokyo is a perfect example of "Going on Offense" and it really changed the course of the Pacific war. The Doolittle Raid led to the Japanese defeat at the Battle of Midway after which the Japanese were in continual retreat.
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Postby plblark on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:06 am

got a spare $2 - 10 Million lying around in your couch?
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Re: Amending the MN Constitution to include RKBA :)

Postby Heffay on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:07 am

pacificbob wrote:The Doolittle Raid on Tokyo is a perfect example of "Going on Offense" and it really changed the course of the Pacific war. The Doolittle Raid led to the Japanese defeat at the Battle of Midway after which the Japanese were in continual retreat.


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Re: Amending the MN Constitution to include RKBA :)

Postby pacificbob on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:13 am

plblark wrote:got a spare $2 - 10 Million lying around in your couch?


Somewhere I read the history of the MCPPA and it started at someone's kitchen table. When Kennedy proposed the man on the moon thing we DIDN'T have half the technology to do it. Anyway MN RKBA is something we NEED. If it takes 15 years, let's get started.
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Postby Heffay on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:23 am

pacificbob wrote:
plblark wrote:got a spare $2 - 10 Million lying around in your couch?


Somewhere I read the history of the MCPPA and it started at someone's kitchen table. When Kennedy proposed the man on the moon thing we DIDN'T have half the technology to do it. Anyway MN RKBA is something we NEED. If it takes 15 years, let's get started.
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Ah, I see you don't want any moderates or independents to support you. Good luck with that.
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Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:31 am

pacificbob wrote:http://www.saf.org/constitutions.html#With

We share a status with
California,
New York,
New Jersey,
Maryland,
Iowa
That is no state constitution RKBA.

Within 5 Months of Pearl Harbor we bombed Tokyo and went from defense to offense.
Once the dust has settled after this round of BS we need to take the offense and amend the MN
Constitution. Could it be on the ballot (with Senator Franken) on November 4, 2014.

Discuss


Looks like that worked well for Illinois...
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Re: Amending the MN Constitution to include RKBA :)

Postby pacificbob on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:40 pm

If it were on the ballot, I couldn't see it being defeated. It waves the flag and that gets noticed.
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Re: Amending the MN Constitution to include RKBA :)

Postby goett047 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:26 am

First of all, there is no need for it. Every state is already protected under the US Constitution. Second of all, just because the Doolittle raid came before the battle of midway, does not mean it led to a Japanese defeat there. Pick up a **** book.
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Postby farmerj on Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:07 am

I don't understand what Franken has to do with a State issue on the constitution? Other than maybe a talking head. He's a fed rep, not a state.
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Postby EAJuggalo on Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:18 am

The thinking is it will lead to more conservative voters with Franken on the ballot as well.
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Re: Amending the MN Constitution to include RKBA :)

Postby pacificbob on Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:58 am

goett047 wrote:just because the Doolittle raid came before the battle of midway, does not mean it led to a Japanese defeat there. Pick up a **** book.


Respectfully, you're just plain wrong :) The Doolittle Raid was the reason there was an attack at Midway. The Japanese Military was totally humiliated by the bombing of Tokyo and the result was the Midway attack which was an unequivocal defeat. The japanese killed 250,000 Chinese as retaliation as well.

from the US Navy website: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/even ... dooltl.htm

they also resolved to eliminate the risk of any more such raids by the early destruction of America's aircraft carriers, a decision that led them to disaster at the Battle of Midway a month and a half later.


and

Battle of Midway, fought over and near the tiny U.S. mid-Pacific base at Midway atoll, represents the strategic high water mark of Japan's Pacific Ocean war. Prior to this action, Japan possessed general naval superiority over the United States and could usually choose where and when to attack. After Midway, the two opposing fleets were essentially equals, and the United States soon took the offensive.


Bla, Bla, Bla, you could look it up, but the point is 'going on offense' is the way to win. The David / Goliath over-reaching of the Doolittle raid on Tokyo lead to the unequivocal defeat for the Japanese at Midway.
After Midway and Guadalcanal the Japanese continually backpedaled all the way to the 1000 bomber missions on Tokyo.

The 2A supporters find themselves on the defensive now, once this has passed, I think it is important to go on 'offense' and amend the MN constitution. When Concealed Carry Reform was passed it was part of a progressive offensive movement throughout the US. We exercise RKBA under the 5-4 Heller-McDonald decisions, in the future there will be 5-4 and 6-3 defeats for RKBA at the Supreme Court. We will need the state constitution as a backup.
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