Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

[XDM45]

I find it slightly funny but also saddening to see another topic about someone attacking our 2nd amendment rights and 1 page in it turns to fighting each other, we as 2A supporters need to realize we can have different opninon's without using the lame "you make us look bad " phrase that so many like to use. It would be great to see us work together to educate our "side" if you will, instead of tearing each other down if we disagree on things.

Good luck to us all and hope to see you on the 21st

* http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=39611*

100% agreed.

[White Horseradish]

I went to check out the Protect MN FB page. I noticed something curious in their "posts by others". One guy - Roger Doyle Taylor purporting to be a lawyer in Maple Grove specializing in VA law, seems to post more than anyone else. Wonder why he has such a presence on that page...

[grousemaster]

I find it slightly funny but also saddening to see another topic about someone attacking our 2nd amendment rights and 1 page in it turns to fighting each other, we as 2A supporters need to realize we can have different opninon's without using the lame "you make us look bad " phrase that so many like to use. It would be great to see us work together to educate our "side" if you will, instead of tearing each other down if we disagree on things.

Good luck to us all and hope to see you on the 21st

* http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=39611*

100% agreed.

Anyone with an internet connection can read these threads without registering, if the dumb comments go unchallenged we all look pretty dumb.

[Paul]

Or would probably turn around and say you made the situation worse by stopping her from being raped since she's looks like a troll that would never get any on a normal night. Not really rape when she says yes.

Really, we're going to start taking cheap shots at rape victims?

I realize this is hypothetical, but wow.

[damian_mb]

Or would probably turn around and say you made the situation worse by stopping her from being raped since she's looks like a troll that would never get any on a normal night. Not really rape when she says yes.

Really, we're going to start taking cheap shots at rape victims?

I realize this is hypothetical, but wow.

You're taking this out of context....think outside the box much? Seriously, do people these days just take things how they are now??


My point being is, if you were to save her, she would turn it against you. now to learn how to think outside the box please...maybe re-read my post, she would more than likely turn it against you and said you made the situation worse! Thinking that she wants to take guns away from all men and women but her's, what makes you think she would care if you saved her or not?

[Heffay]

Or would probably turn around and say you made the situation worse by stopping her from being raped since she's looks like a troll that would never get any on a normal night. Not really rape when she says yes.

Really, we're going to start taking cheap shots at rape victims?

I realize this is hypothetical, but wow.

I let that one go on purpose. I thought "maybe I'm going to give him a break and see if anything comes of his post." But now that I sit back and think about it... yeah.

I always wonder what guys look like when they make comments like that. I'm assuming there is some sort of projection going on.

[Paul]

Or would probably turn around and say you made the situation worse by stopping her from being raped since she's looks like a troll that would never get any on a normal night. Not really rape when she says yes.

Really, we're going to start taking cheap shots at rape victims?

I realize this is hypothetical, but wow.

You're taking this out of context....think outside the box much? Seriously, do people these days just take things how they are now??


My point being is, if you were to save her, she would turn it against you. now to learn how to think outside the box please...maybe re-read my post, she would more than likely turn it against you and said you made the situation worse! Thinking that she wants to take guns away from all men and women but her's, what makes you think she would care if you saved her or not?

Saying that she wouldn't get any on a normal night and she would be a willing victim does not prove the point you think you're attempting to make.

[PHATSPEED7x]

Left my two cents on their wall...

[greenfarmer]

Lol, I put a few comments on that protect minnesota page. If your not for Obama, and you oppose them, they delete your comment, happens 2-3 times and they put you on some sort of block list where you can't comment on their page. What a joke! They aren't even willing to engage in a diplomatic discussion about firearms! Narrow minded people! Because of people like that and their narrow mindedness, we still have issues in this country. They fail to see outside the box!

[Snakeman721]

Lol, I put a few comments on that protect minnesota page. If your not for Obama, and you oppose them, they delete your comment, happens 2-3 times and they put you on some sort of block list where you can't comment on their page. What a joke! They aren't even willing to engage in a diplomatic discussion about firearms! Narrow minded people! Because of people like that and their narrow mindedness, we still have issues in this country. They fail to see outside the box!

Kinda like watching any "news" show on MSNBC with a Twitter feed across the bottom of the screen. It's seems that ALL of those twitters are FOR whatever crap the host is espousing. Yeah, that's balanced reporting....just like this Protect Minnesota FB page.....NOT.

[LePetomane]

I've been nothing but respectful on their page and have been banned for a very long time.

Reasoned discourse, I'm sure.
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Not surprising. The tolerant Minnesota Nice hypocrites crowd only tolerates what they agree with.

[photogpat]

At their rally today they were calling for "respectful dialogue" and calling out the "Twitter Bullies".

Hint hint - the "Twitter Bullies" have never done anything but refute obvious lies and/or mistruths/exaggerations...etc...etc...etc...

I was strangely proud...especially when I went up to the speaker afterwards and asked if I could speak with him regarding his remarks - he said "No thanks" and walked away (fairly certain he and I had never met before, either online or in person). Fairly typical behavior for their leadership. The individual attendees would speak to me - but generally had nothing other than emotion to throw at the discussion once they learned I was from the "other side". One guy told me I was sorely mistaken that HF241 included a "confiscation" upon my death -- he said it was a "surrender", not a "confiscation" and that I was wrong.

[2in2out]

... One guy told me I was sorely mistaken that HF241 included a "confiscation" upon my death -- he said it was a "surrender", not a "confiscation" and that I was wrong.

You gun people sure are a bunch of fanatics. I'm glad you got schooled.

Btw, thanks for representing us and engaging them. Seriously.

[XDM45]

He does let things get to him, he just doesn't want to admit it most of the time. On the topic of not wanting to admit something, I am sure he regrets saying he would not help an anti because he realizes now that by trying to be righteously indignant, he actually said he would deliberately choose not to be a good Samaritan, something that goes against the ethical and moral principles of just about everyone this side of sociopathy.

Feel free to put your own a-- on the line for a stranger, I won't. Nothing sociopathic about it. Also, morals and ethics are subjective. Not all share the same of these. Do I regret anything I've said? Nope. Neither does it get to me. You can think it does if that makes you feel better, but it really doesn't bother me at all.

Huh. Go figure. I'm not alone in my line of thinking: http://www.carryforum.com/forum/viewtop ... 45&t=19237

[tman]

This made me think of this thread...http://news.msn.com/us/3-men-jump-on-tracks-in-nyc-to-save-stranger