Senate's gun control score card

View · by **MXGreg** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:46 pm

Here's how the votes went today in the senate:

•The Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act by Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and others. It expands background checks to gun shows and Internet sales. It also authorizes $400 million to upgrade the national background check database. It failed 54-46 under a requirement of 60 votes for adoption.
•A proposal by Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, to swap the background check provisions of the existing bill. It would target those who lie on background check applications and raise access to information about those who have been found mentally impaired by a court. It failed 52-48.
•The Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act from Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and others. It would enable those who purchase guns for others to avoid a background check. It failed 58-42.
•Concealed-carry reciprocity from Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and others. It would treat state-sponsored concealed carry permits like driver’s licenses, making them valid across state lines. It failed 57-43
•The Assault Weapons Ban from Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and others. It targets hundreds of types of weapons for a complete ban. It failed, 40 to 60.
•A plan from Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., to require a court order finding a person a danger to himself or herself or others before that person is banned from buying a gun. Failed 56-44.
•The Large-Capacity Magazine Feeding Devices Amendment from Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J.. It bans devices holding more than 10 rounds but creates a special class of citizen – the off-duty police officer – for exemption. Failed 46-54.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bang-senate- ... etppJs7.99

View · by **george** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:58 pm

GREAT NEWS, I feel better now. Looks like the more they want to do, the less likely of passage.
I do wish the permit reciprocity would have passed but all fail is better than all pass.
Overall, Good News.

View · by **Kelor** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:02 pm

Did you see Obama sulking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-PAVH8f1Rw

View · by **mn4wheeler** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:11 pm

all in all, pretty good news.

View · by **mn4wheeler** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:13 pm

Kelor wrote:Did you see Obama sulking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-PAVH8f1Rw

anytime he sulks it is a good thing...

View · by **Xscream** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:48 pm

While this is a great victory, I think we should remember a famous quote about conservation that mirrors what we face with our rights.

"No victory is permanent, only defeat"

So enjoy it while we can!

View · by **grousemaster** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:55 pm

Xscream wrote:While this is a great victory, I think we should remember a famous quote about conservation that mirrors what we face with our rights.

"No victory is permanent, only defeat"

So enjoy it while we can!

So the defeat Obama just took is permanent?

View · by **george** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:07 pm

Even Obama claims more to come, crap there goes the nerves again.

Obama vowed to press on, saying the vote was "just round one," while decrying those he claimed "caved" to political pressure.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/17/background-check-plan-in-trouble-as-dems-call-votes-on-gun-bill/

View · by **greenfarmer** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:28 pm

How can we find out how our wonderful senators voted on these bills?

View · by **MXGreg** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:43 pm

greenfarmer wrote:How can we find out how our wonderful senators voted on these bills?

I know they both voted yes to the background checks.

Found it:

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2013/ ... heck-vote/

View · by **Jreinan01** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:44 pm

greenfarmer wrote:How can we find out how our wonderful senators voted on these bills?

There is literally NO restriction of 2A that our Senators would not vote for...none

View · by **XDM45** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:45 pm

This is good news, however, DO NOT STOP!! NOW is the time, as I've been saying, to keep up the pressure, get pro-freedom/pro-gun/pro-2A legislation passed. Don't get side tracked by shiny things. We won a very minor battle in a very long war.

View · by **LarryP** on Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:57 pm

And some here don't like the NRA!! Obama whining about them is worth joining the NRA

Congrats to all pro gun groups & Individual efforts by millions of gun owners

We may have won a battle, but the war still rages on

View · by **AgAuTHORITY** on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:06 am

A win is a win, but the scores were too close. Makes me afraid the next time something comes thru.

Ag

View · by **photogpat** on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:23 am

I got into a heated discussion with someone from the other side last night -- they essentially said:

"THERE, YOU DID IT, you stopped common sense. NOW what are YOU going to do to prevent another Newtown?"

I replied with: "Well if you quit making us waste our time and efforts defending the very basics of the 2nd Amendment all the time, we could focus on actual violence prevention instead!"