Cities object to state preemption of firearms ordinances.

[Lumpy]

http://www.startribune.com/local/238810551.html

While the League of Cities hasn’t taken a position on permit-to-carry laws, it did argue that cities should have the option to ban guns from city buildings, noting that most city leaders agree on keeping local control over such questions, Finn said.

[gunsmith]

Saw that article...some really stupid quotes from City workers.

Lame. Poor girl who wrote it...just counting the days till she gets laid off from the strib.

[CJB]

Or just do like Lino Lakes and rent space to an ECFE program. Now it's part of a school. Guns banned.

[BigBlue]

I love the one by the person about Crystal who said they think they have more leeway in making rules because they "are a charter city". Really, people, you have no idea WTF you're talking about.

BB

[farmerj]

I like this response I got a while back when addressing an issue....

My name is Tony Spector, and I am the Meeker County Attorney. I am relatively new to this position, and want to let you know that my oath of office addresses my responsibilities in accordance with the State and Federal Constitutions as well as the laws of this State. The Second Amendment, of course, falls within this group as does Minnesota Statutes 624.714 and 471.633.

Meeker County Park Ordinance Section 4(e) makes it unlawful to (among other acts) possess a firearm in a Meeker County Park. Minnesota Statutes 624.714, subd. 23 and 471.633 essentially renders unlawful that aspect of the Park Ordinance. Accordingly, Meeker County law enforcement will not be enforcing this ordinance as it relates to holders of valid permits to carry, notwithstanding any sign or ordinance.

Regarding the park signs, some delineate that it is unlawful to possess a firearm in the park. It will take some time to remove the language from the signs. Likewise, the Park Ordinance will need to be modified to reflect the current state of the law. The Park Ordinance was adopted in 1991, twelve years before the 2003 permit to carry legislation.

I hope this helps, and please let me know if you have any questions.

Tony Spector

[gunsmith]

Couldn't find the 'Big Round of Applause' emoticon

[farmerj]

well unfortunately, the county ordinance has not been corrected in 10 months since this exchange occurred.

I sent him a response asking him for a follow up.

[jdege]

http://www.startribune.com/local/238810551.html

While the League of Cities hasn’t taken a position on permit-to-carry laws, it did argue that cities should have the option to ban guns from city buildings, noting that most city leaders agree on keeping local control over such questions, Finn said.

I believe that any city should be able to ban firearms from any city building, so long as they are willing to forgo any authority by which they might be able to require that anyone go into a building in which guns were not allowed.

[farmerj]

I believe that any city should be able to ban firearms from any city building, so long as they are willing to forgo any authority by which they might be able to require that anyone go into a building in which guns were not allowed.

Huh??

[farmerj]

well unfortunately, the county ordinance has not been corrected in 10 months since this exchange occurred.

I sent him a response asking him for a follow up.

Got a response already...

Thank you for your email. Your question is fair, and it is my intent that this year the ordinance will be amended to bring it into conformity with state law. As I stated in my previous email on March 28, 2013, Meeker County law enforcement will not be enforcing this ordinance as it relates to holders of valid permits to carry.

Thanks,
Tony

[photogpat]

This was a test article to gauge reaction from the community to gun control legislation.

Write and/or email your state reps. Let them know we're watching - and that removing "preemption" will create a tremendous chance to snag otherwise law-abiding citizens in a web of confusing city/county ordinances regarding permitted carry.

[gunsmith]

Hit the comment section....leftys being slagged mercilessly

[farmerj]

Local govt isn't complying with state laws as it is.

Think it really matters to them?

My own representative has already stated, pro gun and anything related to domestic violence is a career ending vote.

[Rip Van Winkle]

Local govt isn't complying with state laws as it is.

Think it really matters to them?

My own representative has already stated, pro gun and anything related to domestic violence is a career ending vote.

Does that mean he/she thinks a pro gun vote is a career ending vote?

[jdege]

I believe that any city should be able to ban firearms from any city building, so long as they are willing to forgo any authority by which they might be able to require that anyone go into a building in which guns were not allowed.

Huh??

While I might disagree with a private business that decides to ban guns, I recognize their right to do so. I am free, after all, to not frequent the business.

Government is different in two ways. First, that they can require me to enter the business, and second that their using my tax money to pay for it.

So, if a local government were willing to surrender the authority to compel behavior, and to no longer fund itself with tax dollars, I'd not object to their banning guns in their offices.