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Bored this morning, and did a little research teen deaths

Postby greenfarmer on Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:31 pm

I was bored this morning and thinking... So I did a little "googling" to see what I could find. And it was rather interesting.

I have a daughter, who turned 11, and for her b-day, she wants to have a "slumber party". So that got me to thinking. I have a fair number of firearms, all of which are kept in a big safe that she doesn't know the combination to. And she's been taught not to touch any of them if they are out, but she can ask questions about them, and if she wants to try to shoot a gun, i'm always more than happy to help her. She's become quite good at shooting the Ruger Single Ten, and the plain jane 10/22 Ruger.

Also, there's a well stocked bar in the house. Plenty of different kinds of alcohol. And she's not one to even consider tasting it. Plus, we have had a long talk many times about it. She's just an all around good kid. Well, the bar is in the rec room part of the basement. So, i'm thinking that these kids will all be down there having their slumber party. Sleeping bags, pop, water, chips, you know. All those things. And I feel to be safe, it's best to move and hide the bottles. Especially after doing some research today.

So I started thinking a little bit, and doing some searching this morning. I figured I would do a search on how many teens die every year from alcohol poisoning. Here's what I found... http://www.ask.com/question/how-many-te ... -poisoning

"Every year about 5000 teen dies because of alcohol poisoning in America. Most of them are between the 12 to 14 years. The rate of death due to Alcohol posing is quite greater in America as compared to other countries."

Then for a comparison sake, I looked up some news articles for the ANTI's... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/3 ... pitalized#

"Every year, 500 children and teenagers are killed from gunfire and another 7,500 kids are hospitalized from gun injuries, according to a new study from doctors who reviewed a decade’s worth of hospital pediatric records"

So really, it got me to question.... If they are so concerned about guns, about children dying from guns, why are they concentrating on guns only? Why don't they bring back prohibition as well? Shouldn't they also be shutting down all distillery's, and breweries? Or am I a bit misinformed here? And is my research way off? There's so many more things out there that are killing our children, and adults than guns alone. You start looking into alcohol, tobacco, illegal drugs. You name it. All of which contribute to as many or more deaths than guns.

Maybe i'm just rambling and hopeful. That maybe something will change. That maybe our ELECTED officials who are in office to SERVE US, will actually concentrate on things other than guns. That they will realize there's more things out there that do far greater damage to our children than guns do.

So now, can the Pro 2A people like myself, start parading around the children like they do?

Feel free to flame me on this.
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Re: Bored this morning, and did a little research teen deaths

Postby Lumpy on Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:25 pm

The standard anti reply is "guns have no purpose except to kill people" ( :roll: well duh...) I know, it sounds retarded; but that's the kind of thinking that led to those (thankfully thrown out) lawsuits that tried to sue gunmakers for making a "hazardous" product.

If this really was just a cynical propaganda lie by collectivists seeking to abolish freedom, like the conspiracy theorists claim, in a way I'd actually feel reassured. But it isn't- the anti's really do think in this ultra-pacifist way. :o
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Re: Bored this morning, and did a little research teen deaths

Postby 3Spaniels on Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:47 pm

The progressives believe liquor and drugs are required to help bring change from a capitalistic country to one that likes Marxism. Additionally, if the people are armed the progressives cannot take over.
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Re: Bored this morning, and did a little research teen deaths

Postby 2in2out on Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:07 pm

Greenfamer, I think you have given me a paragraph in the forthcoming letters to my elected officials. Thanks for also providing a link to the stat.
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Re: Bored this morning, and did a little research teen deaths

Postby greenfarmer on Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:20 am

2in2out wrote:Greenfamer, I think you have given me a paragraph in the forthcoming letters to my elected officials. Thanks for also providing a link to the stat.


No need to thank me. It's just something that I started thinking about yesterday morning. And before I went and opened my big mouth, or hunt and pecked away with my fat fingers, I wanted to see what I could find before I started complaining about our agenda driven BO followers.

And if you look online enough, you can find things that kill as many, or more children per year than guns. I was actually surprised to see that it was around 500. Sure, up to 7500 are hospitalized throughout a year. But you know, how many children die of cancer? http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/fact ... /childhood TO MANY! And that's one that's close to me, I lost a sister years ago from cancer.

It's one thing when the government decides to go after or tax things that we use by choice. Whether that's a higher tax on tobacco, gas taxes, things like that. Which those are all things that is our choice to use. They won't take them away, they will just tax us. It seems every week or month, cigarette prices continually go up. I smoke, and that's my choice to continually pay for it. I don't complain. It's a choice I made.

But the government feels it's their right to try and take away a right given to us by our forefathers of this country. That's something that's not a choice, it's a RIGHT. They can only push so much, and people will start to push back. Whether it's thru elections, protests, you name it. People won't stand for the government infringing on their rights forever.

If they really want to cut down on gun deaths every year. Then make it a mandatory 20 year minimum sentence for someone that's illegal to own or posses a gun, to have one! But you can cut that in half if they provide the person to authorities that they received the gun from. No more slap on the wrist! Why punish law abiding citizens when you should be punishing criminals?

My guess is.... There's more law abiding gun owners in the US than there are convicted felons that are illegally owning guns, or people who are actually disqualified from them, but because of mental health records being slow, they still get guns, or are in possession.

Government needs to learn to do their job. The Job we ELECTED them to do.... Go after the people that shouldn't have them! And do the research first! Don't just say guns are a problem and try to take them away. Look at other things that are a far bigger problem and address that as well.
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