Are our gun rights better off today?

[Grayskies]

Are our gun rights better off today?

[photogpat]

Looking slightly more positive than yesterday. It appears activism in MN made a difference this year! (see Shannon Savick among others).

[Ghost]

Federally yes. Statewise slightly but progress will not be likely for at least four more years.

[LePetomane]

I would not count on it.

[Tronster]

Republicans have taken a majority in the Minnesota House, so at least the dems don't have a three way free for all in the state now. Doubt any good 2A stuff will come our way but it should put a damper on any negative 2A projects also.

[Uffdaphil]

On the whole, the recent national battle of a couple years ago was a huge win for our side. Despite big money from Bloomberg and pals, the most egregious proposals were shot down. It scared the heck out of politicians in yesterday's election. Fewer campaigned on more gun restrictions this cycle.

I think the antis have waved the bloody shirt too often and lost the fence sitters. The increasingly oppressive federal government has helped our arguments appear more rational than the "common sense" solutions of our opponents. Recent court rulings, especially regarding bearing arms, also make me optimistic.

[yuppiejr]

[PHATSPEED7x]

My area failed hard this election year. I blame the mines and unions.

[xd ED]

On the whole, the recent national battle of a couple years ago was a huge win for our side. Despite big money from Bloomberg and pals, the most egregious proposals were shot down. It scared the heck out of politicians in yesterday's election. Fewer campaigned on more gun restrictions this cycle.

I think the antis have waved the bloody shirt too often and lost the fence sitters. The increasingly oppressive federal government has helped our arguments appear more rational than the "common sense" solutions of our opponents. Recent court rulings, especially regarding bearing arms, also make me optimistic.

Washington State, with money from bloomberg, gates, etc, just outlawed most private gun sales. Most transfers will now require a FFL.

And a broad, philosophical answer answer to the original question might be:

As long as the electorate continue to act as they did in the majority of state/ local elections, no liberties are safe.

[photogpat]

Washington State, with money from bloomberg, gates, etc, just outlawed most private gun sales. Most transfers will now require a FFL.

And a broad, philosophical answer answer to the original question might be:

As long as the electorate continue to act as they did in the majority of state/ local elections, no liberties are safe.

Exactly why Bloomie is so dangerous...we'll see this same thing come up here....again....

[Uffdaphil]

Washington State, with money from bloomberg, gates, etc, just outlawed most private gun sales. Most transfers will now require a FFL.

And a broad, philosophical answer answer to the original question might be:

As long as the electorate continue to act as they did in the majority of state/ local elections, no liberties are safe.

Exactly why Bloomie is so dangerous...we'll see this same thing come up here....again....

Good points, but I am still optimistic that, despite setbacks in the bluest states, a corner has been turned in the fight to make the public aware of the importance of the second amendment. The exposed lawlessness of government forces is a great educator.

[Ghost]

Washington State, with money from bloomberg, gates, etc, just outlawed most private gun sales. Most transfers will now require a FFL.

And a broad, philosophical answer answer to the original question might be:

As long as the electorate continue to act as they did in the majority of state/ local elections, no liberties are safe.

Exactly why Bloomie is so dangerous...we'll see this same thing come up here....again....

Good points, but I am still optimistic that, despite setbacks in the bluest states, a corner has been turned in the fight to make the public aware of the importance of the second amendment. The exposed lawlessness of government forces is a great educator.

Although MN is dark blue, there is a reasonable gun presence on both sides of the isle. Need to keep supporting GOCRA. I was really hoping for suppressor progress but I that's not going to happen. If Iowa can get their suppressor bill through then we can be one of the 8 states that like noise pollution.

[Uffdaphil]

Supressors are my #1 want too. So sick of trying to get a good cheek weld with bowls on my head. Maybe if Iowa goes quiet it won't seem so radical to MN.

[BigBlue]

Although MN is dark blue, there is a reasonable gun presence on both sides of the isle. Need to keep supporting GOCRA. I was really hoping for suppressor progress but I that's not going to happen. If Iowa can get their suppressor bill through then we can be one of the 8 states that like noise pollution.

I can't understand the continued staunch opposition to suppressors. There is nothing logical about it. They aren't some magical devices that makes guns deadly. They apparently aren't used in crimes in states that allow them. And they offer real health/safety value. I'm surprised a nanny state like MN isn't trying to mandate them for hearing safety. The opponents must just be stuck in make-believe land where these devices are the root of all crime. I shake my head at all of the stupid decisions that are made in this world based on bias, emotion, and general moronism.

BB

[farmerj]

Although MN is dark blue, there is a reasonable gun presence on both sides of the isle. Need to keep supporting GOCRA. I was really hoping for suppressor progress but I that's not going to happen. If Iowa can get their suppressor bill through then we can be one of the 8 states that like noise pollution.

I can't understand the continued staunch opposition to suppressors. There is nothing logical about it. They aren't some magical devices that makes guns deadly. They apparently aren't used in crimes in states that allow them. And they offer real health/safety value. I'm surprised a nanny state like MN isn't trying to mandate them for hearing safety. The opponents must just be stuck in make-believe land where these devices are the root of all crime. I shake my head at all of the stupid decisions that are made in this world based on bias, emotion, and general moronism.

BB

Lobby the DNR, they're the hold up.