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Re: Obama could sign UN gun treaty via Excecutive order

Postby Lumpy on Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:40 pm

Bearcatrp wrote:
And when was the last budget passed?

What budget? these tards keep printing money and still spend more than that.

Strictly speaking, the US doesn't pay its bills by printing cash- we wouldn't have gotten this far if they did. What they do is borrow money from people "investing" in US Savings Bonds. So as long as the accounting ledgers insist that this debt owed is an "asset" and as long as we can still pay interest on what we owe, the train will keep rolling. And when we can't anymore? Actually, printing money might be the answer: pay the debt owed in now nearly-worthless dollars. It worked for the Founders after the Revolution. :evil:
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Obama could sign UN gun treaty via Excecutive order

Postby jshuberg on Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:09 pm

Not true. Lookup quantitative easing. The Fed prints new money. They use that money to buy bonds and debt. It's a scam they've been running since around 1913.
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Re: Obama could sign UN gun treaty via Excecutive order

Postby Lumpy on Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:22 pm

jshuberg wrote:Not true. Lookup quantitative easing. The Fed prints new money. They use that money to buy bonds and debt. It's a scam they've been running since around 1913.

If I'm not mistaken, quantitative easing is a way of pumping liquidity into a risk-shy economy gridlocked by a debt crisis. That's not always bad; in 1930 they probably should have just printed and mailed $100 to every adult in the country- odds are half of it would have gotten hidden in the mattress without being spent. It's only a problem if a government can't fund itself by either taxation or borrowing (both of which balance money spent with money removed from the economy).
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Re: Obama could sign UN gun treaty via Excecutive order

Postby Bearcatrp on Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:29 pm

If I'm not mistaken, quantitative easing is a way of pumping liquidity into a risk-shy economy gridlocked by a debt crisis.

Sounds like Enron
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Postby jshuberg on Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:11 pm

It's a scam.
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Re: Obama could sign UN gun treaty via Excecutive order

Postby hopkins on Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:32 pm

we do not have to worry about illegal house searches for firearms. The ACA (Obamacare) has a clause that the "health of children being necessary, Home inspections may be made at any time. To hell with the Fourth Amendment. "we can come into your house and search it in the name of your children or other person of concern". The search is unlimited in scope and firearms not secured in a safe could be reason for "their removal" from the home.

The ACA is thousands of pages long and I doubt that one single congressman or woman has read the thing. There are double back clauses, references to previous sections, and even references to parts off the law mentioned after the part you are reading that are there to confuse any casual investigation.

We should have fun fighting this thing now that it has passed.
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Re: Obama could sign UN gun treaty via Excecutive order

Postby Grayskies on Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:40 pm

I would think that violates the Constitution in a few places. Lets just hope the 1sp place they try to search is Ted Nugents house!
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Re: Obama could sign UN gun treaty via Excecutive order

Postby jdege on Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:28 pm

Randygmn wrote:They passed an unenforceable law. Those that refused to register their weapons are technically criminals at this point. Authorities can't confiscate weapons that they don't know about (which is why everyone is against registration). LE said they intend to "pick up" the occasional unregistered weapon during traffic stops and those they encounter during unrelated house searches.

Exactly.

They won't prosecute people in bulk, when everyone is looking for it, they'll attack individuals, for doing nothing wrong, after the crowds have all gone home.
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Re: Obama could sign UN gun treaty via Excecutive order

Postby BigBlue on Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:51 am

hopkins wrote:we do not have to worry about illegal house searches for firearms. The ACA (Obamacare) has a clause that the "health of children being necessary, Home inspections may be made at any time. To hell with the Fourth Amendment. "we can come into your house and search it in the name of your children or other person of concern". The search is unlimited in scope and firearms not secured in a safe could be reason for "their removal" from the home.


Sounds like a good reason to get rid of the kids...
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