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California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:51 pm
by LarryP
(Bloomberg) -- California’s ban on new semiautomatic handguns that don’t stamp identifying information on the cartridge was upheld by a U.S. judge in a major loss for gun-rights groups.

The law barring sales of handguns without the microstamping technology doesn’t violate the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment because gun owners don’t have a right to buy specific types of firearms, U.S. District Judge Kimberly Mueller in Sacramento said in her ruling.

“Plaintiffs insist they have the right to determine the precise way in which they would exercise their Second Amendment rights,” Mueller said. The insistence upon particular handguns falls “outside the scope of the right to bear arms,” she said.



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Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:31 pm
by Bearcatrp
It will get over turned. gun manufacturers will pour the money on this to crush it.

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:23 pm
by MaryB
Funny 2a doesn't mention you can only buy this certain handgun with microstamping that does not exist in the commercial world...

California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:21 am
by jshuberg
The judge apparently missed that "shall not be infringed" part.


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Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:45 am
by Grayskies
You expect a different decision from CA Judge?

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:23 am
by karlobag
I hope the ghost of Michael Paymar and his cronies in the Legislature do not try to stuff something like this down our throats now.

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:36 pm
by 2in2out
jshuberg wrote:The judge apparently missed that "shall not be infringed" part.


That's what I was thinking.

It's a really confusing ruling, because it doesn't make any sense.....
“The court’s ruling means that more gun crimes will be solved, more lives will be saved, and California communities will be safer,” Mike Feuer, the Los Angeles city attorney and the author of the microstamping bill, said in a statement.

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:47 pm
by AgAuTHORITY
It's a really confusing ruling, because it doesn't make any sense.....
“The court’s ruling means that more gun crimes will be solved, more lives will be saved, and California communities will be safer,” Mike Feuer, the Los Angeles city attorney and the author of the microstamping bill, said in a statement.


What do you mean. Every jack booted thug that get his gat at the local gun shop will be easily traced. Thus saving lives and stopping crime.........easy peasy. When will CA fall into the ocean and become a memory.....

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:02 am
by Grayskies
AgAuTHORITY wrote:
It's a really confusing ruling, because it doesn't make any sense.....
“The court’s ruling means that more gun crimes will be solved, more lives will be saved, and California communities will be safer,” Mike Feuer, the Los Angeles city attorney and the author of the microstamping bill, said in a statement.


What do you mean. Every jack booted thug that get his gat at the local gun shop will be easily traced. Thus saving lives and stopping crime.........easy peasy. When will CA fall into the ocean and become a memory.....

Unfortunatly the plate California is on, is more rotating than moving out to sea. So it is heading toward Alaska.

I still like the idea of selling it to China to pay off the debt we have!

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:50 am
by AgAuTHORITY
Unfortunatly the plate California is on, is more rotating than moving out to sea. So it is heading toward Alaska.

I still like the idea of selling it to China to pay off the debt we have!


Hmm, I like Alaska. Guess there goes the neighborhood applies here.

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:06 pm
by Lumpy
The stupid it burns :x

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:31 am
by Randygmn
Yeah, ok Kim. FYI, ANY requirement for exercising an inalienable right is an infringement. But one that strictly regulates which firearms can be bought and sold, and at significantly higher prices, is clearly unconstitutional.

To hear the would be gun grabbers and banners talking about this is infuriating. They know nothing about firearms, but their uneducated positions are given a platform. I wish I had a nickel for everyone who thinks the actual projectile is stamped. Once informed its only the case, and shown a picture of a revolver or a brass catcher, along with how easy it is for a criminal to file off the stamping die, they don't have much to say. Except maybe, "but if it saves just one child". I truly hate these people. And when I say hate, I mean a deep seated, burning hot hatred.

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:16 am
by s4oak
Nothing a bit of emery cloth can't take care of.

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:52 am
by LePetomane
Randygmn wrote: Except maybe, "but if it saves just one child".


A sure way of escalating this argument is to bring up the fact that abortions outnumber gun crimes and the uterus is a dangerous place. :D :D They will go nuts on you. Guaranteed!!!!!

Re: California Handgun-Microstamping Law Upheld by U.S. Judge

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:10 am
by Ghost
How about they make a tool roster so only approved tools made out of a metal that doesn't exist can be used to perform abortions? Or maybe California will only have approved versions of Bibles that meet their guidelines be allowed for sale. Slippery slope and all that.