This Can't Be Right

[gunflint]

If this is true and we can't return fire, it's over. Isn't his an act of terrorism? Or possibly and act of war?

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=P ... geId=84287

INVASION USA
Ramos-Compean treatment has border agents quivering
Mexican drug smugglers spray bullets, but U.S. officers dare not return fire
Posted: December 22, 2008
9:18 pm Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling
© 2008 WorldNetDaily


Monica Ramos embraces her husband, former U.S. Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos, two days before he was sentenced to 11 years in prison (Courtesy El Paso Times)

A team of Mexican drug smugglers unloaded $1 million worth of drugs across the U.S. border, spraying bullets at U.S. Border Patrol agents with automatic weapons, but the agents dared not return fire – as one official said they fear losing their jobs or ending up behind bars like agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

Ramos and Compean are serving 11- and 12-year prison sentences, respectively, for shooting an illegal alien drug dealer while he smuggled nearly 750 pounds of marijuana across the border. They were convicted of assault, discharge of a weapon in the commission of a crime of violence and deprivation of civil rights.

Send a FedEx letter to the president asking him to help Ramos and Compean.

This time drug smugglers wore military clothing and fired "military type" automatic weapons at U.S. Border Patrol agents and Immigration and Customs Enforcement personnel in Tuscon, Ariz., on Dec. 1.

The brazen smugglers backed a flatbed tow truck into an 18-foot border fence and unloaded two pickup trucks packed with marijuana into the U.S. as National Guard and U.S. predator surveillance cameras recorded their efforts, and Border Patrol agents were immediately dispatched to the scene.

When the agents attempted to stop the pickup trucks, a Chevrolet Avalanche and a Ford F150, the smugglers began driving back toward Mexico. However, U.S. authorities deflated the truck tires before the smugglers could make it to the other side, the Laguna Journal reported.

Just then, another vehicle was spotted in Mexico, and a sniper began firing an automatic weapon at the U.S. agents.

But agents did not fire back.

According to reports, additional heavily armed smugglers began scaling the border fence and tossing bundles of drugs from the Avalanche pickup truck into Mexico.

The agents refrained from discharging their weapons.

When authorities arrived on the scene, the suspects lit the Avalanche on fire and retreated to Mexico, leaving behind 1,158 pounds marijuana – worth $1 million.


Drug smugglers torched the Chevy Avalanche before fleeing back to Mexico (photo: Laguna Journal)

Registration records revealed the F150 had been stolen in Douglas, Ariz. Mexican police were notified, but they have not arrested suspects.

Many witnesses, including U.S. scientists working in Arizona, report seeing heavily armed illegal aliens crossing border fences in the area. When U.S. agents arrive on the scene, smugglers often pelt them with rocks, strike them with vehicles or fire weapons at them – and agents sometimes face penalties for firing back.

In an incident similar to the Ramos and Compean case, one border patrol agent said he feared for his life after a group of illegal aliens began throwing rocks and concrete chunks at him in August at the San Ysidro border crossing. He fired his weapon and wounded one of the men in the buttocks.

Officials at the Mexican consulate in San Diego criticized the 10-year Border Patrol veteran and demanded the U.S. conduct a full investigation, the San Diego Union Tribune reported. Local police and the FBI investigated the agent.

"Any kind of shooting toward Mexican territory is rejected by the Mexican government," Consul General Remedios Gómez Arnau warned Border Patrol agents. "They should have waited for response of the Mexican authorities."

After this month's incident, an anonymous officer close to the investigation told the Laguna Journal that agents often fear defending themselves because shooting back could mean prison time – just as it did for Ramos and Compean.

"These men are still in prison for doing what many of us think was just doing their jobs as Border Patrol agents," he said.

[justaguy]

If this is true and we can't return fire, it's over. Isn't his an act of terrorism? Or possibly and act of war?

It's true. I'm sure some A-hole some where would say they are smuggling drugs not trying to terrorize people. And they are not acting officially for the mexican Government so it probably cant be an act of war. And the American people are weak so this will continue. Legalize it and this puts an end to all this BS.

[Pat]

If the Border Patrol is toothless now, under the Bush administration, just imagine what the rules under the new regime will be like. Crap...

[Srigs]

If the Border Patrol is toothless now, under the Bush administration, just imagine what the rules under the new regime will be like. Crap...

No kidding

[Ironbear]

My roommate from college was in the Border Patrol in AZ. Got out about 10 years ago when he saw the writing on the wall. There were too many incidents of Patrol Officers getting shot at from people indistinguishable from Mexican troops, and limited options on what to do about it. Part of the problem was that, given enough money, drug runners could purchase legitimate government IDs. Also, some of the officials had "unofficial" side jobs with the drug runners. Made it difficult to sort the "good" guys from the "bad" guys, with international repercussions either way.

Oh, and a couple of officers with sidearms, rifles and a 4x4, weren't much of a match for military-type vehicles mounting medium and heavy machine guns.

[DonMn]

Bush just shorten these guys sentences a few days ago, I heard they are getting out sometime this spring. It's pretty f**ked about how much time these guys got for shooting a drug smuggler in his arse. I forget the guys name(he runs the minuteman project) has been bardgering Bush non-stop for over a year to get these guys released. The main prick attorney was the on that really went after the two border agents, in case anyone is interested this skums name is Johnny Sutton.

The Minutemen have more teeth than the Border Patrol now days. The border down in Texas is been a very dangerous place the last few years. Mexico is one place I wouldn't visit if you paid me, even in the central part and resort towns are hit or miss for safety. Border Patrol and Minute Men regularly find tank tracks and Mexican military ID's 60 miles plus into the US.


Don

[1911fan]

tank tracks or backhoe tracks. Let's just say the three S rule is actively in force.