Are we heading towards a showdown?

[Lumpy]

It seems to me that we're coming close to a breaking point. The mushy middle that has been the de facto compromise between pro- and anti- gun proponents is no longer tolerable to either side (although the antis will try to recruit as many Fudds and "reasonable gun laws" people as possible). Short of the Supreme Court declaring guns a states issue and the country being divided into pro and anti enclaves by state, something has to give. Are we approaching a final battle where one side will completely win and the other side completely lose? Or could a SC ruling OK some restrictions on guns but set a bedrock floor against any further restrictions?

[MJY65]

Possibly, if the antis are foolish enough to push for immediate enforcement. Door kicking and confiscation would lead to confrontation, but if they just continue to make more things difficult to buy, permits, etc., the next generation will know nothing different and may even agree with it. Our generation will be gone and no one will oppose them.

[Rip Van Winkle]

Our RTBK will disappear when liberals, both democrat and republican, no longer fear losing elections over it.

[MJY65]

Our RTBK will disappear when liberals, both democrat and republican, no longer fear losing elections over it.

I agree. The last of us Gen X and Baby Boomers will be gone in 20-30 years, and very few Millenials care enough about the issue to make it a determining factor in their vote.

[Bearcatrp]

I thought it already started. There seems to be more anti's lately. Especially when our government lets this happen to justify confiscation. All they need is a major incident to happen to make that justification. Not going to be pretty but for now its peaceful.

[yukonjasper]

The Pro Gun 2nd Amendment crowd has ZERO propaganda and next to ZERO plan to propagate the message. The only thing the mushy middle knows is what they are hit in the face with every time they turn around - News reports, anti gun messages in their favorite entertainment etc. The Left has always been better at selling their story and getting people to sign onto their side. People will always vote their self interest - if they don't know that it is in their self interest to resist Gun Control, they will go along with whatever "common sense" plan the media and other sources tell them to go along with.

As the population ages and becomes more and more disconnected with the Land and Traditions aligned with a Rural/Agrarian way of life, the hobbies and the tools of those hobbies will be seen as less and less important. I don't think the Liberals will have to wait until we all pass away, they will be able to mobilize the mushy middle to go along with the agenda - incrementally but not necessarily over the course of decades.

I wish it weren't true, but there just aren't enough people passionate enough to hold them back, especially when I don't see anything on the horizon that will provide a mass media message and a campaign strategy to defeat what is a very calculated and determined strategy to severely limit if not eliminate the 2nd Amendment.

[Hmac]

Are we heading towards a showdown?.

No, not likely. The majority rules in America. The minority will complain, and try to become the majority again, but in the meantime they'll go along

[bstrawse]

The Pro Gun 2nd Amendment crowd has ZERO propaganda and next to ZERO plan to propagate the message. The only thing the mushy middle knows is what they are hit in the face with every time they turn around - News reports, anti gun messages in their favorite entertainment etc. The Left has always been better at selling their story and getting people to sign onto their side. People will always vote their self interest - if they don't know that it is in their self interest to resist Gun Control, they will go along with whatever "common sense" plan the media and other sources tell them to go along with.

As the population ages and becomes more and more disconnected with the Land and Traditions aligned with a Rural/Agrarian way of life, the hobbies and the tools of those hobbies will be seen as less and less important. I don't think the Liberals will have to wait until we all pass away, they will be able to mobilize the mushy middle to go along with the agenda - incrementally but not necessarily over the course of decades.

I wish it weren't true, but there just aren't enough people passionate enough to hold them back, especially when I don't see anything on the horizon that will provide a mass media message and a campaign strategy to defeat what is a very calculated and determined strategy to severely limit if not eliminate the 2nd Amendment.

I disagree. Come get involved with us. http://gunowners.mn/volunteer

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[photogpat]

The Pro Gun 2nd Amendment crowd has ZERO propaganda and next to ZERO plan to propagate the message. The only thing the mushy middle knows is what they are hit in the face with every time they turn around - News reports, anti gun messages in their favorite entertainment etc. The Left has always been better at selling their story and getting people to sign onto their side. People will always vote their self interest - if they don't know that it is in their self interest to resist Gun Control, they will go along with whatever "common sense" plan the media and other sources tell them to go along with.

As the population ages and becomes more and more disconnected with the Land and Traditions aligned with a Rural/Agrarian way of life, the hobbies and the tools of those hobbies will be seen as less and less important. I don't think the Liberals will have to wait until we all pass away, they will be able to mobilize the mushy middle to go along with the agenda - incrementally but not necessarily over the course of decades.

I wish it weren't true, but there just aren't enough people passionate enough to hold them back, especially when I don't see anything on the horizon that will provide a mass media message and a campaign strategy to defeat what is a very calculated and determined strategy to severely limit if not eliminate the 2nd Amendment.

Also disagree. I was moderately anti-gun (call it a Fudd if you will) in my teens and 20's during the height of the anti-gun resurgence. I've gone completely the other way and have seen gun control for what it actually is -- CONTROL.

I think you'll see Millennials picking up firearms and shooting sports in good numbers - provided we continue to give them opportunity and economically feasible ways to do so.

Like Bryan said above - GET INVOLVED.

[MJY65]

I think you'll see Millennials picking up firearms and shooting sports in good numbers - provided we continue to give them opportunity and economically feasible ways to do so.

That's a huge part of the problem. As a teen, I was able to go out and plink, shoot cans, shoot targets informally basically whenever I wanted to. Vacant state land, gravel pits, etc. None of them were posted and no one panicked and called the cops. Those opportunities are exceedingly rare these days. Yes, formal ranges and leagues exist, but the available times and settings are far more limited.