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Gorsuch is in.

Postby yukonjasper on Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:04 pm

What do you expect now that he is on board? Can we expect leaps and bounds for the Second Amendment?

Who is expected to be the next Justice to retire or expire?
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby Ghost on Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:01 pm

Need Ginsberg to tip over or Kennedy to step down before they will push anything of substance. IMO
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby jdege on Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:09 pm

When are the orals scheduled for Peruta?
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby harryset on Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:29 pm

I like that he's in, but I'm afraid that we are now totally F'd up. Using the Nuclear option for this now guarantees that whoever has the majority control can run roughshod over everyone else. You will never be able to oppose another Supreme Court justice, all nominations will be push button installs.
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby BigDog58 on Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:09 pm

harryset wrote:I like that he's in, but I'm afraid that we are now totally F'd up. Using the Nuclear option for this now guarantees that whoever has the majority control can run roughshod over everyone else. You will never be able to oppose another Supreme Court justice, all nominations will be push button installs.



I guess that means WE have to do OUR part and put the RIGHT people in D.C. From the President to the Senate.
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby Ghost on Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:29 pm

harryset wrote:I like that he's in, but I'm afraid that we are now totally F'd up. Using the Nuclear option for this now guarantees that whoever has the majority control can run roughshod over everyone else. You will never be able to oppose another Supreme Court justice, all nominations will be push button installs.

And just how would we prevent Dems from doing it to us down the road when things reverse? Better to get who we want through because the nuclear option is definitely getting used.
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Postby sprigfan on Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:54 pm

Yep. Be careful what you wish for, because this could burn Republicans badly in the future. Now that they are in power, they could really feel the pain in the next election or two unless people see real progress. That's how it usually goes.
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:49 pm

Right, cause the dems would have respected our position if the roles were reversed. Some people need to wake the eff up
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:23 am

Alan Gura didn't sound too hopeful back in Sept.

The Court after Scalia: The next “conservative” Justice may not save the Second Amendment
A sober assessment of the Second Amendment’s present status must precede any attempt at predicting a “conservative” Supreme Court nominee’s impact on the Second Amendment’s future. Well before Justice Antonin Scalia’s passing, judges figured out that District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. City of Chicago are optional precedents. For all their powerful content, these decisions have in practice proven meaningless in the face of near-total resistance throughout the federal courts, in combination with the transparent lack of interest at One First Street in defending the Supreme Court’s eponymous position atop the judicial hierarchy. To be sure, some judges seek to apply Heller and McDonald in resolving Second Amendment disputes. But most treat the Supreme Court’s precedent as a hassle to surmount before rubber-stamping any legislative restriction on the right to bear arms. If not today, then very soon, it shouldn’t be too hard for any sufficiently dedicated and creative legislature to effectively ban firearms or just about any firearm-related activity, without worrying much about Heller. Appointing one “conservative” Justice to replace Antonin Scalia won’t improve matters. Indeed, “conservative” judges are part of the problem.

more...http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/09/the-court-after-scalia-the-next-conservative-justice-may-not-save-the-second-amendment/
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:25 am

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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby Ghost on Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:30 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:Alan Gura didn't sound too hopeful back in Sept.

The Court after Scalia: The next “conservative” Justice may not save the Second Amendment
A sober assessment of the Second Amendment’s present status must precede any attempt at predicting a “conservative” Supreme Court nominee’s impact on the Second Amendment’s future. Well before Justice Antonin Scalia’s passing, judges figured out that District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. City of Chicago are optional precedents. For all their powerful content, these decisions have in practice proven meaningless in the face of near-total resistance throughout the federal courts, in combination with the transparent lack of interest at One First Street in defending the Supreme Court’s eponymous position atop the judicial hierarchy. To be sure, some judges seek to apply Heller and McDonald in resolving Second Amendment disputes. But most treat the Supreme Court’s precedent as a hassle to surmount before rubber-stamping any legislative restriction on the right to bear arms. If not today, then very soon, it shouldn’t be too hard for any sufficiently dedicated and creative legislature to effectively ban firearms or just about any firearm-related activity, without worrying much about Heller. Appointing one “conservative” Justice to replace Antonin Scalia won’t improve matters. Indeed, “conservative” judges are part of the problem.

more...http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/09/the-court-after-scalia-the-next-conservative-justice-may-not-save-the-second-amendment/

Did he mention who he would pick? The Ted Nugent types would be difficult to nominate with a straight face.
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Gorsuch is in.

Postby INOR on Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:45 am

Remember how everyone thought Roberts would be a hugely conservative appointment?


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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby Ghost on Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:39 am

INOR wrote:Remember how everyone thought Roberts would be a hugely conservative appointment?


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We also didn't realize the Obama admin would later surveil him.

Chief Justice John Roberts of the Supreme Court was targeted, along with Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, 156 other judges, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, and prominent businessmen.

http://radaronline.com/videos/president-donald-trump-surveillance-evidence-scandal-obama-james-comey/
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Postby jdege on Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:43 am

sprigfan wrote:Yep. Be careful what you wish for, because this could burn Republicans badly in the future. Now that they are in power, they could really feel the pain in the next election or two unless people see real progress. That's how it usually goes.

I really don't see it.

I think the Dems were stupid, to filibuster Gorsuch, because it is by no means certain that the GOP could have achieved the votes to invoke the nuclear option on a more controversial candidate the next time around.

But I don't think that the GOP is stupid, to invoke the nuclear option now, because it's clear that the Dems would have, no matter what the GOP did.
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Re: Gorsuch is in.

Postby Holland&Holland on Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:02 pm

WTF to people want? Should we have let the Dems choose the nominee?

Seriously, they got it done, period, at least they finally accomplished something.
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