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Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:41 pm
by jdege
I vaguely remember being told that one of the critical events in Minnesota's carry permit history was an opinion/letter/advisory from Skip Humphrey - then MN AG - that the requirement to show "need" in the then law have chiefs the authority to deny arbitrarily, without cause.

Does anyone remember the details?

Is the content of the letter available, anywhere?

Re: Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:23 pm
by bstrawse
I've emailed Professor Olson and a couple others to see if they have it.

b

Re: Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:02 pm
by mrp
In case you don't already have it handy, here is an article by Olson that you might want to read through:

The Minnesota Citizen's Personal Protection Act of 2003: History and Commentary
Hamline Journal of Public Law and Policy, Vol. 25, p. 21, 2003

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=2070938

Nothing on Humphrey jumps out skimming the first part. It may, however, point you in the right places to look for more information.


ETA:

And there's this, the source you are almost certainly remembering (because there you are in the comments :)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938637/posts

1991 -- REDEFINING DISCRETION

Beginning slowly, Attorney General Skip Humphrey takes the discretion idea statewide.
He lobbies Twin Cities Metro police chiefs to deny permits requested for personal safety.
He encourages out-state cities to do the same, in the name of "state-wide uniformity."

Re: Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:29 am
by smurfman
It looks like my former boss was not credited for a quote back in 1995. At least he was honest enough to not carry himself, even when on the clock.

Re: Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:59 am
by jdege
mrp wrote:In case you don't already have it handy, here is an article by Olson that you might want to read through:

The Minnesota Citizen's Personal Protection Act of 2003: History and Commentary
Hamline Journal of Public Law and Policy, Vol. 25, p. 21, 2003

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=2070938

Nothing on Humphrey jumps out skimming the first part. It may, however, point you in the right places to look for more information.


ETA:

And there's this, the source you are almost certainly remembering (because there you are in the comments :)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938637/posts

1991 -- REDEFINING DISCRETION

Beginning slowly, Attorney General Skip Humphrey takes the discretion idea statewide.
He lobbies Twin Cities Metro police chiefs to deny permits requested for personal safety.
He encourages out-state cities to do the same, in the name of "state-wide uniformity."


Thanks.

Re: Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:29 am
by mrp
bstrawse wrote:I've emailed Professor Olson and a couple others to see if they have it.

b


Any luck?

Re: Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:02 pm
by bstrawse
mrp wrote:
bstrawse wrote:I've emailed Professor Olson and a couple others to see if they have it.

b


Any luck?


Thanks for the bump, I neglected to circle back.

Never found anything in writing, but memories from Joe Olson and David Gross seem to call that Humphrey was running around the state telling everyone his thoughts on permit issuance and asking them to follow his opinion -- but no one recalled anything in writing.

b

Re: Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:28 am
by mrp
bstrawse wrote:
mrp wrote:
bstrawse wrote:I've emailed Professor Olson and a couple others to see if they have it.

b


Any luck?


Thanks for the bump, I neglected to circle back.

Never found anything in writing, but memories from Joe Olson and David Gross seem to call that Humphrey was running around the state telling everyone his thoughts on permit issuance and asking them to follow his opinion -- but no one recalled anything in writing.

b


Thanks for the follow-up.

Re: Skip Humphrey's opinion on carry permit issuance

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:04 am
by jdege
mrp wrote:Thanks for the follow-up.

Ditto.