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Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby jdege on Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:52 am

Minnesota is losing a congressional district.

We've had eight for many years, we'll be down to seven after the next census and redistricting.

The DFL fought hard, at the last redistricting, to preserve a district each for St Paul and Minneapolis, when it would have been far less gerrymanderish to combine them.

Are they going t be forced to combine them, this time?
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:26 am

The short answer would be no.

Whatever scheme the DFL comes up with, which benefits them the most, will be upheld by our liberal courts.
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby xd ED on Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:39 pm

Is it a foregone conclusion MN is losing a house seat?
I know there has been much speculation.

And perhaps I'm too cynical for my own good, but given the abysmal voting behavior of this state, I think the nation would be better off if we did. I'm sure there's some downside to it for the state, but I can't imagine that vote being applied any worse than it has been in MN.
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby jdege on Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:46 pm

xd ED wrote:Is it a foregone conclusion MN is losing a house seat?

If the census results follow the current estimates, yes.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/pre-census-estimates-show-reapportionment-winners-losers.html
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:04 am

It seems to me, Minnesota has been projected to lose a Congressional District for the last 20 years.
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby MJY65 on Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:16 am

xd ED wrote:And perhaps I'm too cynical for my own good, but given the abysmal voting behavior of this state, I think the nation would be better off if we did. I'm sure there's some downside to it for the state, but I can't imagine that vote being applied any worse than it has been in MN.


I agree. I'm not sure there is a more reliable source for 10 Democrat electoral votes than MN.
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby jdege on Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:52 am

MN's congressional delegation hasn't been solidly DFL in many years.

Mpls, St Paul, Duluth, and the far NW have been traditionally DFL. The others have been GOP as often as not.
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby MJY65 on Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:56 am

jdege wrote:MN's congressional delegation hasn't been solidly DFL in many years.

Mpls, St Paul, Duluth, and the far NW have been traditionally DFL. The others have been GOP as often as not.


Right, but all 10 electoral votes go to whoever the Metro picks for POTUS. That has been a D since the 70s
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby xd ED on Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:03 am

MJY65 wrote:
jdege wrote:MN's congressional delegation hasn't been solidly DFL in many years.

Mpls, St Paul, Duluth, and the far NW have been traditionally DFL. The others have been GOP as often as not.


Right, but all 10 electoral votes go to whoever the Metro picks for POTUS. That has been a D since the 70s


Yep; in '72, MN went for Nixon; the last time MN supported an R.

In 1980, MN alone went for Jimmy Carter; the other 49 states for Ronald Reagan... even after Carter allowed the Iranian revolution to take place, the aftereffects still making headlines, even as I write this.

Prior to the Great Depression, MN was pretty consistently R.
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby Ghost on Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:09 am

xd ED wrote:
MJY65 wrote:
jdege wrote:MN's congressional delegation hasn't been solidly DFL in many years.

Mpls, St Paul, Duluth, and the far NW have been traditionally DFL. The others have been GOP as often as not.


Right, but all 10 electoral votes go to whoever the Metro picks for POTUS. That has been a D since the 70s


Yep; in '72, MN went for Nixon; the last time MN supported an R.

In 1980, MN alone went for Jimmy Carter; the other 49 states for Ronald Reagan... even after Carter allowed the Iranian revolution to take place, the aftereffects still making headlines, even as I write this.

Prior to the Great Depression, MN was pretty consistently R.

In ‘80 Carter carried 6 states. It was ‘84 that MN was the only state not for Reagan.
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby xd ED on Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:59 am

Ghost wrote:In ‘80 Carter carried 6 states. It was ‘84 that MN was the only state not for Reagan.



You are right;
I stand corrected.

Interesting Reagan had 10x the the number of Electoral College votes that Carter got ; 489/ 49

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In 1984, only MN, and the District of Columbia went for Mondale/ Ferraro over Reagan. 525/ 13; more than 40:1
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby Ghost on Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:16 pm

xd ED wrote:
Ghost wrote:In ‘80 Carter carried 6 states. It was ‘84 that MN was the only state not for Reagan.



You are right;
I stand corrected.

Interesting Reagan had 10x the the number of Electoral College votes that Carter got ; 489/ 49

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In 1984, only MN, and the District of Columbia went for Mondale/ Ferraro over Reagan. 525/ 13; more than 40:1
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I don’t like it but I do understand the 84 vote.

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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby jdege on Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:23 pm

Ghost wrote:It was ‘84 that MN was the only state not for Reagan.

It was close, in 84, and I've been told it was due to a last-minutes emergency ballotbox-stuffing effort on the range.
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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby Ghost on Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:37 pm

jdege wrote:
Ghost wrote:It was ‘84 that MN was the only state not for Reagan.

It was close, in 84, and I've been told it was due to a last-minutes emergency ballotbox-stuffing effort on the range.

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Re: Minnesota is losing a congressional district

Postby bstrawse on Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:45 pm

jdege wrote:Minnesota is losing a congressional district.

We've had eight for many years, we'll be down to seven after the next census and redistricting.

The DFL fought hard, at the last redistricting, to preserve a district each for St Paul and Minneapolis, when it would have been far less gerrymanderish to combine them.

Are they going t be forced to combine them, this time?


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