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Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby Jackpine Savage on Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:05 pm

Mark Smith, Second Amendment lawyer, critiques the proposed gun storage law. I hope this can be played in front of the Minnesota Senate and House. Minnesota Democrats are an embarrassment to the human race. Run time 13:88

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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby jdege on Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:47 pm

Do we have a link to the proposed text?
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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby bstrawse on Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:09 pm

jdege wrote:Do we have a link to the proposed text?


HF396 - see our tracker at https://gunowners.mn/tracker

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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby Lumpy on Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:47 pm

If I'm reading that correctly, it specifies guns be stored unloaded. First, that would obviate the point of having a gun swiftly available in an emergency; and second how the hell does anyone expect that to be enforceable? Would it simply be a pile-on violation to throw at people in the event of a misuse of firearms?
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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby bstrawse on Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:29 am

Lumpy wrote:If I'm reading that correctly, it specifies guns be stored unloaded. First, that would obviate the point of having a gun swiftly available in an emergency; and second how the hell does anyone expect that to be enforceable? Would it simply be a pile-on violation to throw at people in the event of a misuse of firearms?


Your reading is correct. It's patently unconstitutional under Scalia's core holdings in Heller, writing for the court.

Honestly, I think we've killed this bill dead, but it's hard to say what they're going to try to do.

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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby Jackpine Savage on Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:30 am

So what drives Harvard educated, pajama boy, Ronnie Latz? Is he a left wing ideolog or just a Bloomberg paid shill?
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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby xd ED on Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:44 am

Jackpine Savage wrote:So what drives Harvard educated, pajama boy, Ronnie Latz? Is he a left wing ideolog or just a Bloomberg paid shill?


YES
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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby Jackpine Savage on Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:37 am

Well said Bryan!

MN Gun Owners Caucus Chair Bryan Strawser testifies against HF396 - The Defenseless Storage Bill. RT 2:17

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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby bstrawse on Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:02 pm

Jackpine Savage wrote:Well said Bryan!


Thanks! I enjoyed that one.
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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby hammAR on Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:21 am

This is why all Minnesota gun owners should support MN Gun Owners Caucus.

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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby daleamn on Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:14 pm

This is why all Minnesota gun owners should support MN Gun Owners Caucus.


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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby daleamn on Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:42 pm

In the Mark Smith video in the first post of this thread Mark Smith asks at about the 9 minute 20 second mark;
"Does Minnesota really think they're going to be able to pass an unconstitutional law?"

And I think the answer to this is yes, yes they think they can do whatever they want. The liberals are in control, the liberals don't like guns and there seems to be absolutely no consequences for passing an unconstitutional law.
And even if it is found to be unconstitutional (which seems pretty obvious from what Mark Smith says in the video) they might still be able to enforce it for a while, while objections to the law slowly wind their way up our judicial system and even if defeated they'll have the warm fuzzies that they tried to do something and that the pro-gun folk had to expend time, effort and money to oppose them.

WHY do our legislators get to propose unconstitutional laws!!!???

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Re: Critique of the proposed gun storage law

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:51 pm

daleamn wrote:In the Mark Smith video in the first post of this thread Mark Smith asks at about the 9 minute 20 second mark;
"Does Minnesota really think they're going to be able to pass an unconstitutional law?"

And I think the answer to this is yes, yes they think they can do whatever they want. The liberals are in control, the liberals don't like guns and there seems to be absolutely no consequences for passing an unconstitutional law.
And even if it is found to be unconstitutional (which seems pretty obvious from what Mark Smith says in the video) they might still be able to enforce it for a while, while objections to the law slowly wind their way up our judicial system and even if defeated they'll have the warm fuzzies that they tried to do something and that the pro-gun folk had to expend time, effort and money to oppose them.

WHY do our legislators get to propose unconstitutional laws!!!???

(We need adult supervision at the Capitol.)


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