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Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:33 pm
by jdege


Gabbard is making a concerted effort to reach out to pro-gun conservatives. Decrying her anti-gun legislative record.

You all are the folks she's trying to convince. Is it working?

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:04 pm
by atomic41
Nope!

Do not trust her.

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:05 pm
by Bearcatrp
Snake in the grass. RINO! Another mark kemp.

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:16 pm
by jdege
What would she need to do, to change your minds?

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:55 am
by xd ED
jdege wrote:What would she need to do, to change your minds?

Good question (for which I have no answer); she does say the right words in this video....

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:56 am
by Rip Van Winkle
Sorry, I don't trust her either.

What would she have to do to change my mind?

Stand against gun control. Even when it's politically difficult to do so.

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:38 am
by atomic41
jdege wrote:What would she need to do, to change your minds?



Please go look up her voting record. Then ask yourself if you would trust her. This is not meant to be an attack on you, just trying to stimulate deeper thinking. You are asking about a person that has spent the bulk of her career using her power to dismantle your civil rights. She now tours around talking about she has changed.

If I'm shopping for a babysitter and come across someone who is offering their services, but is a convicted child molester...do I trust them? I mean, they say great things about how they are reformed so it should be ok right?

It's simple. Actions speak louder than words. She is a trojan horse just like the communist that posts on this forum. The world is in a hot mess because good people that mean well trust bad people and give them power. Stop the trend if you want things to get better.

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:57 pm
by jdege

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:10 pm
by Lumpy

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:15 pm
by ashes
Of course I'll believer her; after she stands with the Founding Fathers amid conflict, and takes a beating from her former allies because she stood on principle.

Until then - I'm all stocked up on politicians courting every person of every persuasion.

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:49 pm
by Sorcerer
If her lips are moving, she is lying.

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:01 pm
by Holland&Holland
atomic41 wrote:
jdege wrote:What would she need to do, to change your minds?



Please go look up her voting record. Then ask yourself if you would trust her. This is not meant to be an attack on you, just trying to stimulate deeper thinking. You are asking about a person that has spent the bulk of her career using her power to dismantle your civil rights. She now tours around talking about she has changed.

If I'm shopping for a babysitter and come across someone who is offering their services, but is a convicted child molester...do I trust them? I mean, they say great things about how they are reformed so it should be ok right?

It's simple. Actions speak louder than words. She is a trojan horse just like the communist that posts on this forum. The world is in a hot mess because good people that mean well trust bad people and give them power. Stop the trend if you want things to get better.


To be fair, he is far from a Trojan horse unless instead of hiding inside it the Greeks rode on its back all the way into Troy.

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:24 am
by atomic41
Holland&Holland wrote:
atomic41 wrote:
jdege wrote:What would she need to do, to change your minds?



Please go look up her voting record. Then ask yourself if you would trust her. This is not meant to be an attack on you, just trying to stimulate deeper thinking. You are asking about a person that has spent the bulk of her career using her power to dismantle your civil rights. She now tours around talking about she has changed.

If I'm shopping for a babysitter and come across someone who is offering their services, but is a convicted child molester...do I trust them? I mean, they say great things about how they are reformed so it should be ok right?

It's simple. Actions speak louder than words. She is a trojan horse just like the communist that posts on this forum. The world is in a hot mess because good people that mean well trust bad people and give them power. Stop the trend if you want things to get better.


To be fair, he is far from a Trojan horse unless instead of hiding inside it the Greeks rode on its back all the way into Troy.


Well I didn't say he was good at it, but rest assured he's playing his part to the best of his abilities.

Re: Tulsi Gabbard on the Second Amendment

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:14 pm
by jdege
I'm interested in the effectiveness of her politics.

She's clearly reaching out to the gun rights crowd and to Trump supporters. Either positioning herself for 2028 or looking for a VP nod.

I'm wondering whether it's working.

Gun nuts tend to have long memories, and are unforgiving. Politicians generally don't and aren't.

I remember talking to one of Stanek's campaign managers, back when he was Hennepin County Sheriff. He was really trying to understand why the gun rights crowd was so lukewarm with regard to him.

Stanek had been the author of the Shall-issue bill, when he was in the legislature, in several sessions. He'd been by-the-book with regard to permit issuance, as Sheriff.

But he'd been Commissioner of Public Safety, when the shall-issue bill finally passed, and he'd been in charge when his department completely ignored the text of the statute in determining which other states' permits Minnesota would recognize. And gun owners remembered.