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Postby TC95GT on Mon May 18, 2009 9:15 am

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124260178503028361.html

Democrats and Guns
Party liberals have lost the debate.

Amid so much other news, a Senate vote last week to allow loaded guns in national parks slipped under the media radar. The vote shows how the political cause of gun control is as dead as a mounted moose.

By 67-29, the Senate passed Oklahoma Republican Tom Coburn's amendment to let law-abiding visitors carry legal firearms into national parks. This overturns a 1983 federal rule requiring that firearms be kept unloaded and in an inaccessible place such as a trunk of a car. The provision (now part of credit-card legislation) protects Second Amendment rights, and it preserves the right of states to pass firearm laws that apply consistently, even on federal lands.

As recently as the 1990s, guns in parks legislation would have provoked a Congressional uproar. But gun control has proven to be a consistent political loser, and last year the Supreme Court cast doubt on state gun bans. No fewer than 27 Democrats voted for Mr. Coburn's amendment, and the ayes included Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is up for re-election in Nevada next year.

Congressional liberals are furious, and are threatening to hold up the credit-card bill, much as they have held up Washington, D.C. voting-rights legislation to which Republicans attached gun-owner protections. Holding up both bad bills forever would be fine with us, but in any case it's clear liberals have lost the gun control debate even within their own party.

Printed in The Wall Street Journal, page A16
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Re: Democrats & Guns

Postby White Horseradish on Mon May 18, 2009 10:44 am

Republicans aren't significantly better. Guess who introduced the "no guns for no-fly list" bill?
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Re: Democrats & Guns

Postby Ironbear on Mon May 18, 2009 9:27 pm

Congressional liberals are furious...

Actually, I bet it is Congressional Socialists who are furious, as ideas that are classically liberal, are winning out.
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Re: Democrats & Guns

Postby Tutmos on Tue May 19, 2009 8:05 pm

Actually this hasn't passed yet. It is being split off from the rest of bill and being voted on by itself before being rolled back into the larger credit card bill so I wouldn't get too excited about the democrats giving up on gun control just yet.
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Re: Democrats & Guns

Postby Pat on Wed May 20, 2009 4:08 pm

It passed this afternoon, and the President has said that he will sign it.

Gun control is no longer a liberal vs conservative issue. Nobody wants it, and the politicians (except for a few meatheads) aren't supporting it.
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Re: Democrats & Guns

Postby Tutmos on Wed May 20, 2009 5:52 pm

I hope you're right. Six months of it might be enough to bring prices back down to earth.
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Re: Democrats & Guns

Postby chunkstyle on Thu May 21, 2009 3:07 am

Pat wrote:It passed this afternoon, and the President has said that he will sign it.

Gun control is no longer a liberal vs conservative issue. Nobody wants it, and the politicians (except for a few meatheads) aren't supporting it.


Nationally, yes. In Minnesota, no.
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Re: Democrats & Guns

Postby Pat on Thu May 21, 2009 3:35 pm

chunkstyle wrote:
Pat wrote:It passed this afternoon, and the President has said that he will sign it.

Gun control is no longer a liberal vs conservative issue. Nobody wants it, and the politicians (except for a few meatheads) aren't supporting it.


Nationally, yes. In Minnesota, no.


And then there's Wisconsin... What's up with the cheese heads lately? Anybody follow the RKBA news from Wisconsin?
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