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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby EJSG19 on Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:52 pm

westberg wrote:Thanks for the links, I think I need to find a glass display case now, I think Rubber Maid maybe kind of down south trailer parkess.


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According to the article I put up, he recommends superglue and a belt sander.

Looking at your knife, then thinking "hhmmm, superglue and belt sanders..." makes me want to yell NOOO Don't do it! Gives me the shivers.
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby westberg on Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:54 pm

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westberg wrote: I think Rubber Maid maybe kind of down south trailer parkess.


A glass display case isn't going to fool anyone Ron, they will know it's you. :lol:

I know just hoping.

So what grade would you think the ivory would be rated on this knife? It may have been stated on the information card I got with the knife. I emailed the knife maker to get the information again.
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby Stradawhovious on Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:55 pm

EJSG19 wrote:According to the article I put up, he recommends superglue and a belt sander.


Ironically enough, this is exactly how I stabilized bone, horn and ivory nut and saddle blanks for guitars when I was in the "biz". Granted, nuts and saddles on guitars arent show quality hand made Damascus knives........
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby westberg on Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:58 pm

The end grain looks like a bunch of tight
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Trying to understand the difference between mammoth and modern elephant ivory.
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby EJSG19 on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:00 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:
EJSG19 wrote:According to the article I put up, he recommends superglue and a belt sander.


Ironically enough, this is exactly how I stabilized bone, horn and ivory nut and saddle blanks for guitars when I was in the "biz". Granted, nuts and saddles on guitars arent show quality hand made Damascus knives........


Well at face value, it sounds very "rookie" to do that to nice ivory.

But anyone that knows sanding and polishing, knows that you can get some very nice results that way, working progressively to finer and finer polishing materials.

But, on the surface, in "Red Green" context, it sounds pretty screwball.
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby Stradawhovious on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:05 pm

westberg wrote:Trying to understand the difference between mammoth and modern elephant ivory.


As far as biological makeup, next to nothing. The big differences are going to be color, and graining. Those lines that you are referring to >>>>>>>>>>>>> are called Schreger (sp.?) lines. In Mammoth Ivory those lines usually have an angle of less than 90 degrees. On Elephant Ivory, they are most often at or greater than 115 degrees.

As far as the color, since the Mammoth ivory has set in the ground for tens of thousands of years, it has absorbed the minerals and chemicals in the surrounding soil. This can give the ivory a dark brown, blue, green and sometimes red color. Elephant Ivory will always be a white or off white.

:ugeek:

ETA: Mammoth Ivory can be sold and traded legally in the US, and Elephant Ivory, in the absense of CITES documentation can not.
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby Belgiboy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:15 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:
westberg wrote:Trying to understand the difference between mammoth and modern elephant ivory.


As far as biological makeup, next to nothing. The big differences are going to be color, and graining. Those lines that you are referring to >>>>>>>>>>>>> are called Schreger (sp.?) lines. In Mammoth Ivory those lines usually have an angle of less than 90 degrees. On Elephant Ivory, they are most often at or greater than 115 degrees.

As far as the color, since the Mammoth ivory has set in the ground for tens of thousands of years, it has absorbed the minerals and chemicals in the surrounding soil. This can give the ivory a dark brown, blue, green and sometimes red color. Elephant Ivory will always be a white or off white.

:ugeek:


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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby Stradawhovious on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:19 pm

Belgiboy wrote:Why did you ever get out of the 'biz'? I know this is way beyond the original scope of the thread but the original question has been adressed... a lot.


2 reasons, there's no money in it, and musicians are bat **** crazy.
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby VikesFan1 on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:27 pm

Damn, I don't know what the discussion is about here but mammoth 1911 grips would be cooooool! 8-)
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby Stradawhovious on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:29 pm

westberg wrote:So what grade would you think the ivory would be rated on this knife? It may have been stated on the information card I got with the knife. I emailed the knife maker to get the information again.


If there is no checking (tiny hairline cracks) it's more than likely "A" or "B" grade. Due to the color, probably closer to an A than a B
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby Stradawhovious on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:45 pm

VikesFan1 wrote:Damn, I don't know what the discussion is about here but mammoth 1911 grips would be cooooool! 8-)


The scales big enough for that project are hard to come by and expensive.........

Not as expensive as Elephant though......
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby EJSG19 on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:53 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:
VikesFan1 wrote:Damn, I don't know what the discussion is about here but mammoth 1911 grips would be cooooool! 8-)


The scales big enough for that project are hard to come by and expensive.........

Not as expensive as Elephant though......


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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby Belgiboy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:55 pm

EJSG19 wrote:
Stradawhovious wrote:
VikesFan1 wrote:Damn, I don't know what the discussion is about here but mammoth 1911 grips would be cooooool! 8-)


The scales big enough for that project are hard to come by and expensive.........

Not as expensive as Elephant though......


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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby EJSG19 on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:57 pm

Belgiboy wrote:
Is that what Dee told you?


She has granted me special clearance. The grips on my gun are made of Hogue rubber.

She won't have her man looking like pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse.
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Re: Best All-Around Outdoor Knife?

Postby westberg on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:58 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:
westberg wrote:So what grade would you think the ivory would be rated on this knife? It may have been stated on the information card I got with the knife. I emailed the knife maker to get the information again.


If there is no checking (tiny hairline cracks) it's more than likely "A" or "B" grade. Due to the color, probably closer to an A than a B

One panel has no hairline cracks at all, the other one has a couple on one end.

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