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Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:07 pm
by LumberZach
As a millennial, this is something I’ve been giving a lot of thought to lately. Apparently everyone else is too, because I see it in the news all the time.

I have a fairly nice superior brand safe, but of course, it’s running out of room. They don’t give these away though. I think I paid around $3k for mine.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/CABELAS ... s?slotId=1

I’m wondering if I shouldn’t buy a few of these little pro vaults that cabelas sells. At $700 a piece, I could get about 4 of them until hitting the same price point as the big superior. Fire rating won’t be as good, but if someone broke in and even tried to haul a safe away having my collection broken up across 4 safes should significantly slow them down. Enough for the alarm company to send someone hopefully. 4 little safes would be easier to move around, and I could still bolt them in once they are where I want them. And I could probably sell a little one easier than a big one if I ever needed to.

So what do you guys think. 4 little safes, or 1 big safe.

Admittedly, in the next 20 years I’ll probably have both anyway.




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Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:57 pm
by gun_fan111v2
"Heavy duty" 14 gauge walls, isn't that the same gauge as canned corn at Target? :)

Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:02 pm
by Rodentman
At first I thought you were talking about a room with teddy bears, ice cream and marshmallows.

Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:16 pm
by Rip Van Winkle

Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:39 pm
by silvor
Rip Van Winkle wrote:


This video is kind of ********.

Most safes are against a wall. So you'd have to flip the safe FORWARD, then flip it over to do what they did. And, most guys I know bolt the safe to the floor.

That said, I know it's just a way to show safes CAN be broken into.

If you can afford it, buy a safe then put that inside a safe. And get a rider on your insurance policy. Most policies only cover 1k for guns.

Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:52 pm
by Rip Van Winkle
silvor wrote:
This video is kind of ********.

Most safes are against a wall. So you'd have to flip the safe FORWARD, then flip it over to do what they did. And, most guys I know bolt the safe to the floor.

That said, I know it's just a way to show safes CAN be broken into.

If you can afford it, buy a safe then put that inside a safe. And get a rider on your insurance policy. Most policies only cover 1k for guns.

I have a friend who had a Remington brand safe pried open like in the example above. His was bolted to the wall too.

I've also seen cheaper safes split open with a fire axe.

Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:34 pm
by linksep
For $700 I would sell the existing safe, then spend the cash plus proceeds from the safe sale on the next gun(s) on your wish-list.

If you insist on locking them in a box I would make the value play and get a locking gun cabinet or toolbox.
The other option is to get a real "safe", https://zanottiarmor.com/ and https://www.sturdysafe.com/ come to mind first.

I don't keep my sawzall locked up so there's no point in locking up guns in anything less than the safes above (or similar).
This article saved me a bunch of money: https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/ ... tection/2/
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Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:31 pm
by LarryFlew
Personally at your current point i would be building a safe room. Few grand and lots of rebar and concrete. Used bank safe door if i could find one.

Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:56 pm
by Ghost
Get a ridgid tool box from Home Depot. Load it heavy and put in difficult location for removal. Install simplisafe style alarm system in room with motion detector and glass break sensor if there are windows.

Safe space

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:04 am
by INOR
Ghost wrote:Get a ridgid tool box from Home Depot. Load it heavy and put in difficult location for removal. Install simplisafe style alarm system in room with motion detector and glass break sensor if there are windows.


This is an excellent idea. Might have to do this myself.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:33 am
by LumberZach
LarryFlew wrote:Personally at your current point i would be building a safe room. Few grand and lots of rebar and concrete. Used bank safe door if i could find one.


I’ve actually been looking at building a safe room quite a bit. I’ve finally decided that cinder block/concrete/rebar room in my basement will probably be pushing the foundation to its limits, and that’s not a risk I want to take. On top of that, I have in floor heat, so ripping up a section and re-pouring is virtually impossible. New plan is to build a safe room as heavy as I can, and as fire proof as I can, but probably going to be steel studs, chicken wire, and fire resistant sheet rock. At least that’s the idea. First step though, is I want to set a few safes inside there for real final security. Fire protection is something I want to keep in mind, which is what concerns me about a lot of the other ideas in this thread. I do have a security system on the windows/doors/motion, but I plan on living in this house for the rest of my life. Since I can’t do the cement room, I want to do the next best thing and keep everything as secure as possible.


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Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:46 am
by yukonjasper
Do you live in Iraq?

Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:34 am
by Ghost
yukonjasper wrote:Do you live in Iraq?

Don’t we all?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:36 am
by Ghost
LumberZach wrote:
LarryFlew wrote:Personally at your current point i would be building a safe room. Few grand and lots of rebar and concrete. Used bank safe door if i could find one.


I’ve actually been looking at building a safe room quite a bit. I’ve finally decided that cinder block/concrete/rebar room in my basement will probably be pushing the foundation to its limits, and that’s not a risk I want to take. On top of that, I have in floor heat, so ripping up a section and re-pouring is virtually impossible. New plan is to build a safe room as heavy as I can, and as fire proof as I can, but probably going to be steel studs, chicken wire, and fire resistant sheet rock. At least that’s the idea. First step though, is I want to set a few safes inside there for real final security. Fire protection is something I want to keep in mind, which is what concerns me about a lot of the other ideas in this thread. I do have a security system on the windows/doors/motion, but I plan on living in this house for the rest of my life. Since I can’t do the cement room, I want to do the next best thing and keep everything as secure as possible.


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If fire is the biggest worry then a sprinkler system should be your biggest wishlist item.

Re: Safe space

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:58 am
by atomic41
What about a hidden room. Thieves don't steal what they can't see.