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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby shackleford on Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:43 pm

From the CL ad

"$60 per person (you pay range expenses) with a $30 deposite"

Sounds like a well run group.
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby billsnogo on Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:34 pm

I bought one of these and am now hoping I did not make another headache for myself :?
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby RobD on Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:20 am

billsnogo wrote:I bought one of these and am now hoping I did not make another headache for myself :?


There are plenty of sub-par instructors that don't mind misrepresenting state law in order to appeal to the masses. There are others that will participate in less the reputable marketing practices... Just because someone is financially motivated, does not mean it's a bad class. IMHO, it'n not a good start.
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby timwarner on Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:44 am

why not just go with an instructor from here and call it a day?
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby billsnogo on Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:55 am

timwarner wrote:why not just go with an instructor from here and call it a day?

Because I had already spent the money, so might as well take the class. I did it on a whim since my dad and bought it and wanted me to take it with him and figured it was time I got my permit to carry. :?

Will see if leason learned the hard way, or turns out to be worth my time/money.
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby IDPA Shooter on Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:20 pm

billsnogo wrote:I bought one of these and am now hoping I did not make another headache for myself :?


I hope you don't get what you paid for, a cut rate job. I did that with a carpet cleaning service and got a rushed job and regretted it, but my liberty and life was not on the line. I know nothing about Midwest or its principal(s), the class may be great. But I think most instructors would agree 900 is a ton of students in a few months.

Most of our students are referrals. We do get a few calls a year saying, hey I know about guns, can I just give you $50 and show up for the law and the shooting
test? We advise we charge $125 for a 7 hour class that we team teach and limit class to 16 students. We feel that even experienced students learn something, but then we are not objective.
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby Pezhead on Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:00 am

IDPA Shooter wrote:
billsnogo wrote:I bought one of these and am now hoping I did not make another headache for myself :?


I hope you don't get what you paid for, a cut rate job. I did that with a carpet cleaning service and got a rushed job and regretted it, but my liberty and life was not on the line. I know nothing about Midwest or its principal(s), the class may be great. But I think most instructors would agree 900 is a ton of students in a few months.

Most of our students are referrals. We do get a few calls a year saying, hey I know about guns, can I just give you $50 and show up for the law and the shooting
test? We advise we charge $125 for a 7 hour class that we team teach and limit class to 16 students. We feel that even experienced students learn something, but then we are not objective.



Well said. After taking a couple classes from Bob I can recomend him highly.
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby westberg on Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:56 am

Dawn and I got our start in action shooting by starting with IDPA Shooters classes.
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby gyrfalcon on Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:03 am

I'm sure an instructor could hold a pretty big class if they put their mind to it. :)

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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby Rem700 on Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:07 am

RobD wrote:Advertising it as "Concealed Carry Class" tells me just about all I need to know.


I think there are a few that advertise as concealed carry course, I know Bills still lists theres as such.
Just did a quick Google on Mn concealed carry and many of the locals came up, I think many atleast mention concealed carry so that they get a hit with a Google search.
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby Rem700 on Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:44 am

billsnogo wrote:
timwarner wrote:why not just go with an instructor from here and call it a day?

Because I had already spent the money, so might as well take the class. I did it on a whim since my dad and bought it and wanted me to take it with him and figured it was time I got my permit to carry. :?

Will see if leason learned the hard way, or turns out to be worth my time/money.


I have never heard of Midwest before this thread, My first class was with Darrel Mulroy and later with Plus P next was a class given by one of the regulars here a 2/$75 couples class with a cameo from another forum member and a class from another gun forum for $250 the biggest difference I could see in the classes was $212.50 :roll: Perhaps the other classes and reading both versions of the Mn carry book filled in gaps I didnt notice. I have already decided on a class from yet another forum member here unless that 2/$75 couples class is offered again ;) :D
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby RobD on Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:50 am

Rem700 wrote:
RobD wrote:Advertising it as "Concealed Carry Class" tells me just about all I need to know.


I think there are a few that advertise as concealed carry course, I know Bills still lists theres as such.
Just did a quick Google on Mn concealed carry and many of the locals came up, I think many atleast mention concealed carry so that they get a hit with a Google search.


RobD wrote:
There are plenty of sub-par instructors that don't mind misrepresenting state law in order to appeal to the masses.
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby Joefelic on Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:57 pm

I bought the voucher for my wife and myself then signed up for the first class. It was not bad...not terribly comprehensive. Mostly discussing case law situations. For the shooting test...just needed to shoot 2 clips (cylinders in my case) and show some proficiency and safe firearm handling. They constantly stated in the course that if one intended to really carry, they would need to train, train, train. All in all it was worth it, but I came with 40 years of shooting experience. I got the certificate it is valid to get the CCW permit. That's next!
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby RobD on Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:47 pm

Joefelic wrote:I bought the voucher for my wife and myself then signed up for the first class. It was not bad...not terribly comprehensive. Mostly discussing case law situations. For the shooting test...just needed to shoot 2 clips (cylinders in my case) and show some proficiency and safe firearm handling. They constantly stated in the course that if one intended to really carry, they would need to train, train, train. All in all it was worth it, but I came with 40 years of shooting experience. I got the certificate it is valid to get the CCW permit. That's next!


This is NOT a reflection of you, but of the instruction. If tou did not come out the the class knowing that MN does not have a "CCW" (its a "permit to carry") not to mention correct gun terminology, I remain sceptical.

Not to mention the fact that Midwest Carry Academy misrepresented their pricing to maintain a better margin on the coupon.

If you feel like you did not get what you needed in the class, please PM me and you can come to my class free of charge.

Hope you get your permit promptly and stay safe! :cheers:
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Re: Midwest Carry Academy - Living Social Deal

Postby RobD on Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:02 am

Back again... on CrowdCut this time.

At least they have consistent pricing on their website NOW, and removed the incriminating craigslist ads.... Great marketing strategy though, right? Double your price, and then say it's 50% off?

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