Element Arms inventory

View · by **igofast** on Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:41 pm

Element Arms in Becker had a couple boxes(several hundred) of new Aluminum AR mags for $20/ea as of ~12 today. ~$1200 AK's, and really expensive AR's(chrome plated, 1 of 10, etc, etc). Also some 5.56 ammo as long as you don't mind paying $1/round for it. Decent prices on 7.62x39. Still seemed rather well stocked on all AR parts(except a firing pin, grrrr).

View · by **InsertNameHere** on Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:12 pm

Any 9mm ammo there??

View · by **hirdlej** on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:58 pm

After my friend caught them buying federal 525 round bulk packs at walmart in monticello for $21, then reselling it for $42 at their store, it pretty much turned me off from shopping there again.

View · by **goett047** on Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:03 pm

hirdlej wrote:After my friend caught them buying federal 525 round bulk packs at walmart in monticello for $21, then reselling it for $42 at their store, it pretty much turned me off from shopping there again.

business is business

View · by **CIBOIF** on Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:31 pm

That type of business ethics and practices, if actually the case, is not good business... Caveat Emptor!

View · by **goett047** on Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:44 pm

Supply and demand

View · by **Weapon X** on Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:13 am

goett047 wrote:Supply and demand

No that's profiteering on the people who make your business.

View · by **45Badger** on Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:50 am

Weapon X wrote:
goett047 wrote:Supply and demand

No that's profiteering on the people who make your business.

No it's not. It's about right on retail markup for soft goods. Are restaurants gouging you by charging 3-4 times their food cost on the menu? 6-7 times their liquor cost? I'll make it easy- the answer is "no".

Element (and every independent gun store) is a SMALL retailer and has SMALL leverage with their suppliers. In a tight supply market, they are at the bottom of the "orders to fill" list. Manufacturers and distributors are always gonna ship their biggest customers because one invoice, one shipment, one production run is ALWAYS more profitable. Large sophisticated buyers (like Walmart) usually have "fill rate" clauses in their contracts with penalties for poor performance. These contracts drive the choices of manufacturers and distributors.

If Element cannot get the product from their normal supply chain, they automatically lose a sale. If they can get it at inflated cost, they can make a sale at inflated price. They lay out their capital, they assume the inventory risk/burden, they get the return (or not) on the sale. Some will pay, some will not, some will cluelessly piss and moan on the internet. For such a well educated state, Minnesotans seem to have a huge lack of understanding in how business works. Probably why we have Dayton and the DFL D-bags running things.

I'm lucky/happy/whatever to sit this one out. I have stocked myself pretty well in all gun things that are subject to political or financial volatility. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out. I counsel all of you to do the same the next time the market on these things dips. While we have a right to keep and bear arms, we do not have a right to do it in a cheap, affordable, pick your preference manner. Grow up, be responsible (and not an economic victim) and get over it.

View · by **M4A1** on Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:50 am

goett047 wrote:
hirdlej wrote:After my friend caught them buying federal 525 round bulk packs at walmart in monticello for $21, then reselling it for $42 at their store, it pretty much turned me off from shopping there again.

business is business

like business, like customers

View · by **igofast** on Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:29 am

InsertNameHere wrote:Any 9mm ammo there??

Did not see any 9, but a decent amount of 45.

View · by **igofast** on Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:31 am

I guess I'm trying to do too many things at the same time. Totally neglected to state that Michelle Bachmann stopped by. Her parting words, loud enough so everyone in the store could hear it: "More Guns, less crime!"

View · by **qualcorp** on Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:31 pm

45Badger wrote:
Weapon X wrote:
goett047 wrote:Supply and demand

No that's profiteering on the people who make your business.

No it's not. It's about right on retail markup for soft goods. Are restaurants gouging you by charging 3-4 times their food cost on the menu? 6-7 times their liquor cost? I'll make it easy- the answer is "no".

Element (and every independent gun store) is a SMALL retailer and has SMALL leverage with their suppliers. In a tight supply market, they are at the bottom of the "orders to fill" list. Manufacturers and distributors are always gonna ship their biggest customers because one invoice, one shipment, one production run is ALWAYS more profitable. Large sophisticated buyers (like Walmart) usually have "fill rate" clauses in their contracts with penalties for poor performance. These contracts drive the choices of manufacturers and distributors.

If Element cannot get the product from their normal supply chain, they automatically lose a sale. If they can get it at inflated cost, they can make a sale at inflated price. They lay out their capital, they assume the inventory risk/burden, they get the return (or not) on the sale. Some will pay, some will not, some will cluelessly piss and moan on the internet. For such a well educated state, Minnesotans seem to have a huge lack of understanding in how business works. Probably why we have Dayton and the DFL D-bags running things.

I'm lucky/happy/whatever to sit this one out. I have stocked myself pretty well in all gun things that are subject to political or financial volatility. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out. I counsel all of you to do the same the next time the market on these things dips. While we have a right to keep and bear arms, we do not have a right to do it in a cheap, affordable, pick your preference manner. Grow up, be responsible (and not an economic victim) and get over it.

Did it get quiet when you walked in? Cuz you are a kinda scary dude.

View · by **45Badger** on Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:43 pm

qualcorp wrote:Did it get quiet when you walked in? Cuz you are a kinda scary dude.

Me?

scary?

View · by **JohnGageMN** on Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:49 am

45Badger wrote:
qualcorp wrote:Did it get quiet when you walked in? Cuz you are a kinda scary dude.

Me? scary?

People are often scared of the truth...

View · by **floydster** on Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:20 pm

goett047 wrote:
hirdlej wrote:After my friend caught them buying federal 525 round bulk packs at walmart in monticello for $21, then reselling it for $42 at their store, it pretty much turned me off from shopping there again.

business is business

I am calling this post bogus, I have checked Walmart in Monticello every day for a over a month,and talking to the counter guys they haven't had 22lr for a long time.

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