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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby David on Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:04 pm

Spartan117 wrote:They're all Magpuls. The first one is an ACS on a mil-spec tube. The one on the SIG is a UBR, and the one on the second AR is an M93B, which is no longer being made. I like wide stocks, and these are all wide, with great cheek-welds. The UBR and M93B are great because the stock extends from the bottom, leaving the top cheek-piece close to the receiver, instead of a metal tube to press your face against. The lock up is also unbeatable, it rivals a fixed stock. They also have presets, so you can pull them back and they automatically stop where you want them to.

The ACS is decent, but I just bought it to try it out. It's nice because it's a drop-in replacement, whereas the other two are all proprietary parts. The other two also cost nearly $300 a piece. I've tried most of the stocks out there, but I always come back to Magpul.


Great info, thanks! I was thinking about a UBR for my latest, and now I'm convinced!
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby FJ540 on Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:17 pm

Jeff, what folding front sight post is that on your M4, and do you like it?

I can't decide if I want to put iron sights on mine or not. I'll be using glass in the woods, but I may want to do some of the other events too someday.
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby Jeff Bergquist on Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:18 am

It's the Yankee Hill Machine front gas block with integral flip up sight. It seems plenty good but I haven't really wrung it out either. Price was right though.

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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby dragonb8 on Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:27 pm

Here's two I have recently acquired. I'm not much of a wheel gun guy but I had to have them.

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351pd 22 magnum
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BTW anyone know who makes the best full moon clips?
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby Seismic Sam on Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:44 pm

Alright, latest in my collection is a Smith 1076, (10mm) carried for a long time by an Officer Carr of the Bellingham PD of Washington State according to Roy G. Jinks. The gun has a fair number of dings and nicks from being a duty gun, but a really beautiful patina from years of carry in a leather holster, and almost NO scratches. The mag disconnect has been removed from this gun.

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Next a fairly rare ASAI One-Pro imported and sold in this country by Magnum Research. This is a Swiss made gun, and has the smoothest and lightest DA trigger pull of ANY automatic ever built. This gun was sold by MR for less than two years, and should NOT be confused with the Baby Eagles, which are Jericho 941 CZ clones. The innards of the gun are almost pure SIG in design, and it's 45 ACP caliber. This gun was a favorite among various European special forces groups.

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Finally, an EAA Stock in 10mm. Runs perfectly right out of the box, and street legal as sold for IDPA.

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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby RAGGED on Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:04 pm

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Something about the gun screams kick ass, very cool.


I don't have any real good pictures of the rig my wife just got me for my birthday, once I get it to the range, which will be as soon as my dies show up, I'll take some. Until then here is a teaser, all I can say is you better get the dust off that JP Sam, I'm comin for you!

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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby Seismic Sam on Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:23 pm

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Something about the gun screams kick ass, very cool.

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Yes, the way it doube taps is to die for, literally. I can see whay it was a favorite SpecOps gun. Only about a 3.5" barrel, but the gun is heavy, with the rear half of the slide being almost solid steel. Recoil is accordingly mild, and the SA trigger is also very nice.

As far as that .338 Lapua, buy yourself a lot of Retumbo, and learn to moly your own Sierra 300 grain Matchking bullets, because John-Boy won't do it for you any longer. There are rumors that Berger is going to come out with a .338 VLD bullet with a BC in the low .9's (!!!), but so far it's only talk. If you ask John-Boy about it, he gets disgusted and tells you to call them up and ask yourself, meaning he's sick of the questions and he wants other people to start squeezing Berger's shoes on the subject. John-Boy was similarly sour a few years ago when the .204 Ruger came out, and there was no empty brass cases available for ages...

And I hope you manage to get $5,000 out of Westberg for your tactical powder measure, because Lapua brass is NOT cheap, and neither are the benchrest dies.

Oh, and you might want to backtrack and read my posts on the hardships encountered in resizing brass and keeping it concentric. A Redding Type S bushing neck die is NOT the way to go. Get a steel FL die, a carbide sizing button, and run the button up the stem until it just allows the case to go in without jamming in the neck area. That will give you concetric cases, Haven't found anything else that will do this. Stay FAAAARRRR away from the Lee collet die!!!
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby RAGGED on Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:24 pm

Seismic Sam wrote:
RAGGED wrote:
Something about the gun screams kick ass, very cool.

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Yes, the way it double taps is to die for, literally. I can see why it was a favorite SpecOps gun. Only about a 3.5" barrel, but the gun is heavy, with the rear half of the slide being almost solid steel. Recoil is accordingly mild, and the SA trigger is also very nice.

As far as that .338 Lapua, buy yourself a lot of Retumbo, and learn to moly your own Sierra 300 grain Matchking bullets, because John-Boy won't do it for you any longer. There are rumors that Berger is going to come out with a .338 VLD bullet with a BC in the low .9's (!!!), but so far it's only talk. If you ask John-Boy about it, he gets disgusted and tells you to call them up and ask yourself, meaning he's sick of the questions and he wants other people to start squeezing Berger's shoes on the subject. John-Boy was similarly sour a few years ago when the .204 Ruger came out, and there was no empty brass cases available for ages...

And I hope you manage to get $5,000 out of Westberg for your tactical powder measure, because Lapua brass is NOT cheap, and neither are the benchrest dies.

Oh, and you might want to backtrack and read my posts on the hardships encountered in resizing brass and keeping it concentric. A Redding Type S bushing neck die is NOT the way to go. Get a steel FL die, a carbide sizing button, and run the button up the stem until it just allows the case to go in without jamming in the neck area. That will give you concetric cases, Haven't found anything else that will do this. Stay FAAAARRRR away from the Lee collet die!!!


I've done a ton of reading on loading these big SOB's, I completely agree that Retumbo is the powder of choice for the RUM, I've not seen any test that has come with a different conclusion. Oddly the LM seems to favor H1000 and even 4831SC, at least in this specific rifle with this twist. As for the The Lapua brass is not cheap, its always double the cost of domestic brass for all calibers, but I think its twice as good and is all I buy for any bolt gun I own. I've read all your posts on the Bonaza type setup you used, I think I even PMed you awhile back. I have actually had very good luck with the Redding Competition Die Sets, not to be confused with the TYPE-S. These are machined to a much higher tolerance than the TypeS series. I normally have less than 1/2 mill of runout on the ammunition I use those dies with, but I'm fully expecting this to be much more challenging than my currant stuff and looking forward to it. A shooting buddy of mine does coating, he uses something other than moly (Hexagonal Boron Nitride) , much slicker, you can hardly pick up the bullets. I was looking in the latest Sierra book I have a got pretty excited seeing that you can launch a 300 grain pill at 2750fps with a muzzle energy of 5000 ftlbs, with a .750 BC it will hit at 1000 yards with JUST UNDER 2000 ftlbs, about the same as a 7mm remmag @ 200 yards. If I get this big dog shooting as good as your JP we might have to have a clash of titans shoot, get all those puny 300 winmag guys out!
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby Seismic Sam on Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:55 pm

What is the hardness of Boron Nitride?? I am only familiar with Tungsten and Titanium Nitride, and both of these are abrasives that are second only to diamond in hardness. May be very slippery, but will it cause barrel wear? Dunno, but nitrides as a group mean abrasives to me.
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby RAGGED on Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:30 am

Seismic Sam wrote:What is the hardness of Boron Nitride?? I am only familiar with Tungsten and Titanium Nitride, and both of these are abrasives that are second only to diamond in hardness. May be very slippery, but will it cause barrel wear? Dunno, but nitrides as a group mean abrasives to me.


You are correct, it is very hard, but I’ve never heard of it causing increased wear, in fact I’ve heard just the opposite. The stuff is slick, and it is VERY fine, 60-70 nm in size. David Tubbs has been using it on his DTACS for some time, and I pretty much think he knows his ****. The stuff is allot more user friendly, you don't come out looking like Oliver Twist after doing a batch!
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby 45usp45 on Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:25 am

http://www.azom.com/details.asp?articleID=78

Hexagonal boron nitride (h-BN) is the equivalent in structure of graphite (see figure 1). Like graphite its plate like microstructure and layered lattice structure give it good lubricating properties. h-BN is resistant to sintering and is usually formed by hot pressing.

Hexagonal Boron Nitride (h-BN)

· h-BN has excellent lubricating properties

· In the hot pressed state, h-BN is readily machinable using conventional metal cutting techniques, hence complex shaped components can be fashioned from hot pressed billet.

· Providing oxidation of the surface can be prevented, h-BN is not wetted by most molten metals, glasses and salts and hence has a high resistance to chemical attack.

· High dielectric breakdown strength

· High volume resistivity

· Good chemical inertness
Cubic Boron Nitride (C-BN)

· C-BN is the second hardest material known, inferior only to diamond

· High thermal conductivity

· Excellent wear resistance

· Good chemical inertness
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby Spartan117 on Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:57 pm

New LWRCi REPR with Elcan SpectreDR:
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby Seismic Sam on Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:38 pm

Thank you for the explanation. So just like both diamond and graphite are pure carbon, there is a considerable difference in properties due to the crystal structure.
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby Keith on Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:19 pm

My new (slightly used 66 year old) CMP service grade Bavarian Rural Police M1 carbine.
Quality Hardware receiver. IBM barrel, which appears to be correct.
I received it a few days before Christmas, so, naturally, I had to bring it to some family gatherings to show off the (similar) rifle that my grandfather carried during WW2. He was originally issued a Garand but since he was already hauling around the rather heavy radio at the time, he asked for, and received, the lighter rifle.
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Re: Gun Porn Again?

Postby 1911fan on Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:49 pm

Spartan! Is that a Thompson hiding there next to the ammo cans?
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