How would YOU treat a Gun Shot Wound?

[westberg]

I think Defensive Edge had a class, but I don't see it on their calendar and I'm sure it was more expensive. http://www.slr15.com/index.html

But if I remember correctly included in the class was setting up your own trauma bag. We do have some highly trained members, maybe that could be the second part if the Red Cross classes don't cover it.

[MrVvrroomm]

I carry a couple of QuikClot's in each of my shooting bags.



First aid, CPR and AED training are given as a condition of my employment annually.

[Squib Joe]

I know there are some warnings on Quik Clot. Things like do NOT use it unless it's ABSOLUTELY necessary as it can do damage. BUt I know just enough to know I don't know enough on the subject.

The product we've carried in the past is NOT Quik Clot and doesn't cause tissue burns. It is called BleedArrest, manufactured by a local company called Hemostasis, and can be ordered direct

http://www.hemostasisllc.com/store/prod ... pid77.html

[scout]

Being a [former] Combat Lifesaver in the Army I'll throw in my 2 cents...

First, you should really only be using those quick-clot kits if you are hours away from a hospital like camping far up in the BWCA.

Secondly, a really common idea I'm seeing now among EMT's and combat medics is carrying tampons for GSW's. It makes sense, they're absorbent, they come sterile and individually packaged and even have a built in applicator to insert into the wound. Not to mention they are cheap and easy to come by (in comparison to "true" trauma dressings.)

Otherwise, most first-aid techniques would dictate to use a [type of] pressure dressing. If you want to learn how to apply one I strongly suggest taking a first-aid class or being shown from another trained individual, do not just use the internet on this one.

[Paul]

Speaking as a red cross instructor.... learning CPR and how to use an aed are great.... But the standard red cross classes for first aid offer almost no value to trauma incidents or gsw beyond what common sense would already tell you.

So it would be ineffective for what Paul is suggesting, in my opinion.

Also worth noting that aed certification is not a component of the short first aid/CPR class that was first referenced.....so if you decide to go that route I would go for the full 8 hour class.

[goalie]

Being a [former] Combat Lifesaver in the Army I'll throw in my 2 cents...

First, you should really only be using those quick-clot kits if you are hours away from a hospital like camping far up in the BWCA.

Secondly, a really common idea I'm seeing now among EMT's and combat medics is carrying tampons for GSW's. It makes sense, they're absorbent, they come sterile and individually packaged and even have a built in applicator to insert into the wound. Not to mention they are cheap and easy to come by (in comparison to "true" trauma dressings.)

Otherwise, most first-aid techniques would dictate to use a [type of] pressure dressing. If you want to learn how to apply one I strongly suggest taking a first-aid class or being shown from another trained individual, do not just use the internet on this one.

+1 on the tampons.

+1 on the quick-clot stuff, and not using it unless you know how it works and when not to use it.

I have taken the trauma nursing courses, am certified. I am also ACLS, BLS, and PALS, and have, in the past, worked in a Level 1 ED.

Unless you have the time to actually take advanced courses, taking a basic first-responder class and learning the basics is going to do more good than getting into hypothetical discussions. Without the baseline A&P knowledge, it is really hard to correctly assess and treat any serious injury or event.

[chinakay]

Without the baseline A&P knowledge, it is really hard to correctly assess and treat any serious injury or event.

+1 on that. There's a lot more to it than direct wound management.

I'd be very, very interested in a dedicated GSW care class. Count me in if it comes together.

[plblark]

I'm not locked into the Red Cross course nor the certification. The Cert would be nice if we're going to cover the same material and I agree on getting the fundamentals down.

I just want to make sure we get fundamentals + some specifics on GSW. GSW is probably in the fundamentals (pressure as mentioned) but a specific comment / example would not be remiss.

Thanks all for the advice so far.

[Pat Cannon]

I get training through work, also. But I'd definitely be up for a group buy of the clotting agent (whatever the new, non-exothermic kind is). Been meaning to get some for years, mainly for my 'up in the woods' kit but for the range bag too.

[gman1868]

This is the course I'm going to take:

http://www.defense-training.com/courses/tacmed.html

[farmerj]

I fall back onto this training

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12932931/Army ... d-BuddyAid

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3917736/US-AR ... Course-082

[ScatterGun4015]

+1 on tampons also. My buddy was army special forces and he said that every guy on his squad had 3 tampons at all times. I take them deer hunting now after he told me that

[CraigJS]

What a bunch of cup cakes.. Stalone in "First Blood" only needed some gun powder to stop his bleeding!


Great idea though..

[Paul]

I thought he did that in the third movie.....not First Blood.

[ScatterGun4015]

I thought he did that in the third movie.....not First Blood.

I think you are right. I don't think he was shot in "First Blood".