Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

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Re: Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

Postby someone1980 on Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:18 pm

I think the strength of talking about these sorts of things gives people a chance to throw around some ideas and possibly change their opinions.

At least that is what I do a lot of. :)

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Re: Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

Postby Pat on Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:02 pm

Hey, Mark!

Let me also chime in here with a hearty welcome. We are a rather diverse crowd, and even welcome
some who favor the 9mm over the generally acknowledged sanctity of the .45 acp, 230 gr fmj.

Forgive us if we seem a little rough around the edges. You are among those always open to friendly discussion.

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Re: Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

Postby GregM on Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:58 am

Hi Mark. Welcome to the forum and thanks for your candor.

I will chime in with Andrew on this one: A parent who asks about guns, but not about swimming pools, seatbelts, chemicals, etc is motivated by something more than concern for a child's safety. I would expect parents to take your approach and ask many, many questions.
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Re: Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

Postby lenny7 on Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:35 am

GregM wrote:I will chime in with Andrew on this one: A parent who asks about guns, but not about swimming pools, seatbelts, chemicals, etc is motivated by something more than concern for a child's safety. I would expect parents to take your approach and ask many, many questions.


Are they motivated by more than child safety or are they being motivated by the paranoia that is seeded by the type of articles written in the original post? I think Mark's point is well taken. Rather than scoff at questions like that, take it as an opportunity to enlighten, to cite the stats, and to assure them that you take firearms safety as serious or more serious than they do. If they see you as a safe, responsible, gun owner, you'll do more good for the cause. If you scoff at their questions and rant on and on about the political nature of their question, and about your God-given rights, then you'll just be labeled a gun nut and everything else you say will be ignored.
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Re: Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

Postby BRIT_in_the_weeds on Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:34 pm

Welcome Mark.....

Let's get ONE thing clear, everyone, (not picking on Mark) guns ARE political. No getting away from it, whether pro or anti, the media have forced the gun issue to become political.

So, whether it's the pro gun dad wanting to ensure the safety of his kids play environment by expressing his knowlege of firearm safety issues, or the anti parent who won't even let little Tommy draw a picture of an evil gun, both parents actions are a direct result of what the media has made, a polital issue out of guns.

With that said, the coverage of gun issues by the media, proves which side they are on.

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Re: Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

Postby Aceq2jot on Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:47 pm

BRIT_in_the_weeds wrote:Welcome Mark.....

Let's get ONE thing clear, everyone, (not picking on Mark) guns ARE political. No getting away from it, whether pro or anti, the media have forced the gun issue to become political.

So, whether it's the pro gun dad wanting to ensure the safety of his kids play environment by expressing his knowlege of firearm safety issues, or the anti parent who won't even let little Tommy draw a picture of an evil gun, both parents actions are a direct result of what the media has made, a polital issue out of guns.

With that said, the coverage of gun issues by the media, proves which side they are on.

IMHO


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Re: Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

Postby SethB on Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:05 pm

markandco wrote:Why is it that the posters "gun rights" seem to superceed all others rights. Sure you can have any smug comment if a concerned parent asks if you have guns in the house. You can even use the "politics" excuse or relate the question to a sexual position choice but why make light of a parents concern? If a parent does not want thier child around guns why is that looked down on more that our choice to own guns?

1. It doesn't.

2. I have the right to make light of anything I want; that's Freedom of Speech, another right. I have a policy of making fun of stupidity, hypocrisy, and other failures of logic.

Now open (uncovered) electrical outlets, there's something that's actually less dangerous than guns.
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Re: Experts say Kids NEVER should be near guns

Postby Andrew Rothman on Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:47 pm

markandco wrote:Sorry for the rant but I would be crushed if my childeren were part of that 1% that was killed. I would be equally crushed if the other 99% caused it also. If I can ask a simple, adult, question and reduce that 1% chance I feel my children are worth it.


Just to be clear, the kids killed by guns are 1% of kids that die accidentally. The number you're looking for -- kids 0 to 17 who die of accidental firearm injuries -- is 105/73,294,606, or 1/698,043, or one six-thousandth of one percent.

I'll say it again:

The appropriate question is this: "Do you have any guns in your house that could be accessed by my child?" If a parent won't let their kid come to your house because you have guns in a gun safe, that's politics, not safety.
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