What cartridge is dead?

[EJSG19]

Going off of the floor at indoor ranges, I'd say out of all the brass I normally find (.380, 9mm, 40, 45, 10mm, 38, 357)

The least common that I find is .380 and 10mm. So out of modern, "common" ammo, I say those two. Personally I don't care if .380 dies, because I don't like it myself. I would like to see more 10mm around though.

so, coming from a different angle, thats my take on that.

[Stradawhovious]

I would think that the .380 and 10mm are far from going the way of the dodo. I would agree with .45 GAP, and the .17 HM2.

[EJSG19]

I would think that the .380 and 10mm are far from going the way of the dodo. I would agree with .45 GAP, and the .17 HM2.

same.

but in the context i gave, they are the oddities. Maybe those shooters save their brass I don't know. Just saying that is the least common of the "common".

[Seismic Sam]

.25 auto.... I guess I don't have any basis for that opinion, but it just seems like a caliber that serves no useful purpose. Too expensive/useless for a varmint round... Especially considered the guns that chamber them. And, IMO, they are not nearly effective enough for a SD round.

You're WRONG, Bordello breath!! As long as there are ho's out there selling booty, there will be pimps with Fine, Fine, Superfly .25 autous other there with nickeled plating and fake pearl handled grips. Since selling sex is the oldest profession in the world, the .25 will be around forever!!

[Paul]

That's true. That's why Strad bought one, I believe.

[Stradawhovious]

That's true. That's why Strad bought one, I believe.

You'd better believe it, yo.

Fo shizzle.

[hammAR]

Such leadership and shining examples of behavior from the newest annotated sheep-herders.......

[White Horseradish]

Hm. How about 7.65 French Long? Sure, Strad found that one place I could get it, but it's certainly far from common.

In a similar vein, there are the 8mm Steyr, 9x18 Ultra, 7.5 Swedish Nagant. 7.62 Nagant is mostly dead, but Fiocchi makes it in small quantities for the hundreds of thousands M1895 out there.

[westhope]

.25 auto.... I guess I don't have any basis for that opinion, but it just seems like a caliber that serves no useful purpose. Too expensive/useless for a varmint round... Especially considered the guns that chamber them. And, IMO, they are not nearly effective enough for a SD round.

It's a legal cartridge for deer in MN.

[plblark]

.220 and larger, Centerfire

But man, you'd have to be a ninja to get distance and shot placement with that.

Guess they figure you'll either get that perfect shot or the deer will be pissed when it finds out someone tried to shoot it with a .25 acp

[Belgiboy]

I wouldn't buy a .25 WSSM any time soon. They have a bad rep when it comes to barrel life and accuracy. The word is that Winchester and Browning will stop offering rifles chambered for that round. When that happens, it will fade away after everyone that owns one shot out their barrels.

[Bessy]

I haven't dealt with 45 gap... but I would think... that it would be a hard cartridge to kill. Couldn't you just trim down normal 45 acp rounds, and make those work, if they stopped making brass?

[MrVvrroomm]

I haven't dealt with 45 gap... but I would think... that it would be a hard cartridge to kill. Couldn't you just trim down normal 45 acp rounds, and make those work, if they stopped making brass?

"The internal case wall profile is significantly different from .45 Auto cases to permit seating .45-caliber bullets without bulging. The most obvious difference is that the .45 GAP uses a Small Pistol primer to put distance between the primer and breech/action elements present in 9mm-frame pistols. It is unsafe to cut off .45 Auto cases to make .45 GAP cases. The most significant issue is the difference in primer size. A Large Pistol primer that fits the .45 Auto case will over-ignite safe powder charges developed in proper GAP cases with small primers, and high pressure will result. The .45 GAP case has a much different internal taper, so cutoff .45 Auto cases will bulge when bullets are seated to recommended lengths."

above c&p'd from http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/new_45/

[1911fan]

.38 S&w no one is producing guns for it. Rifle cartridges in the short and super short category. They look cool but no one is chambering for them. Remington is down to one loading for both of the RSAUM's.

[Bessy]

I haven't dealt with 45 gap... but I would think... that it would be a hard cartridge to kill. Couldn't you just trim down normal 45 acp rounds, and make those work, if they stopped making brass?

"The internal case wall profile is significantly different from .45 Auto cases to permit seating .45-caliber bullets without bulging. The most obvious difference is that the .45 GAP uses a Small Pistol primer to put distance between the primer and breech/action elements present in 9mm-frame pistols. It is unsafe to cut off .45 Auto cases to make .45 GAP cases. The most significant issue is the difference in primer size. A Large Pistol primer that fits the .45 Auto case will over-ignite safe powder charges developed in proper GAP cases with small primers, and high pressure will result. The .45 GAP case has a much different internal taper, so cutoff .45 Auto cases will bulge when bullets are seated to recommended lengths."

above c&p'd from http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/new_45/

Well that answer that then, although I have seen 45acp that took small pistol primers, The case profile would most likely be a deal breaker. Thanks for great answer.