c&r

[Eghead]

Can you buy a full auto weapon with a curio and relic license?

[Seismic Sam]

Can you buy a full auto weapon with a curio and relic license?

Tootsie and I are BOTH curios AND relics, but neither of us is "full auto" anymore...
So who wants to know, sweetpants??

BTW - the license is NOT the issue. The GUN itself has to classify as a curio or relic. A full auto recent issue MP5 does not qualify at all. A WWII Thompson SMG DOES qualify.

[Eghead]

Does it still have to follow the same rules as a class 3 or are they different?

[Seismic Sam]

Ouch!! Because I am a certified relic, I claim massive memory loss, and cannot answer your question!!

Mommy??

[usnret]

You really need to read the rules from the ATF on ownership of fully automatic firearms.

[DanM]

Don't confuse Class 3 FFL (NFA/machineguns) with Type 3 FFL (Curio & Relic) licenses. There is a difference. Look it up if you are interested, otherwise don't waste bandwidth if you're not willing to pull your weight.

[phorvick]

Having C&R status has nothing to do with whether you can purchase a fully auto C&R gun. The advantage of C&R status is that you can have the gun shipped/delivered directly to you once the proper transfers are approved etc.

In general, the process goes like this:

1. find a gun you want; be sure that not only is it considered a C&R, but that the specific gun is also a C&R (for example, not all Thompsons from WWII are C&R)

2. typically pay most if not all the purchase price in advance

3. apply to the ATF for transfer to you, do the paperwork, pay $200 tax, wait.

4. once approval to transfer to you is granted, and if you are a Zc&R license holder, arrange to have the gun shipped/delivered to you personally

Don't forget the MN also has an approval process. And....if you are NOT a C&R holder, it is significantly more cumbersome to take the gun out of State to any events

[macphisto]

Paul, are you going to tell us who bought your Reising so that we may pester them to let us shoot it?

[phorvick]

Paul, are you going to tell us who bought your Reising so that we may pester them to let us shoot it?

It was tentatively sold to a "friend" of a forum member. If they want to say who, then great, but I don't think I should. However, papyment was due today. I don't have the $$, so I am not sure what that means. I am in IA doing classes this weekend, so I may not get answers until next week.

[tacticalninja32]

Having C&R status has nothing to do with whether you can purchase a fully auto C&R gun. The advantage of C&R status is that you can have the gun shipped/

So is there approved full autos on the c&r list?

[Hobotorium]

Having C&R status has nothing to do with whether you can purchase a fully auto C&R gun. The advantage of C&R status is that you can have the gun shipped/

So is there approved full autos on the c&r list?

I'm pretty sure the old WW2 era machine guns mostly are, and if I recall correctly are the only machine guns a normal person can own in Minnesota. If someone knows otherwise correct me.

[phorvick]

Having C&R status has nothing to do with whether you can purchase a fully auto C&R gun. The advantage of C&R status is that you can have the gun shipped/

So is there approved full autos on the c&r list?

I'm pretty sure the old WW2 era machine guns mostly are, and if I recall correctly are the only machine guns a normal person can own in Minnesota. If someone knows otherwise correct me.

For full auto, Minnesota is a curio/relic only State. There is an ATF listing of C&R guns...see http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/

[ijosef]

Don't you just love the hoops we have to jump through just in order to exercise our 2nd Amendment rights (actually pre-existing rights, simply recognized by the 2nd Amendment)? I know I'm just preaching to the choir here.

My place of employment sold off several 1921 Model Thompson SMG's a decade ago when they rebuilt the watch towers. The Thompsons were bought new back in the day but hadn't been used for tower duty in decades. They got a pretty penny for 'em, enabling them to buy all of the new AR-15's and shotguns with money left over. They kept one Thompson for the Warden's office - it's in an acrylic display case on his desk.