What's up with DPMS?

[Stradawhovious]

I had a Hi-Tec pistol when I was younger. It worked great for me. Therefore, Hi-Tec makes an excellent pistol.

I'm glad you enjoyed it! That seems to have been an excellent purchase for you! Anyone that tells you that all hi-tech pistols are **** obviously hasn't owned yours then, have they?

Conversely, I owned a Glock 36 and had terrible feeding issues. Every magazine there would be a FTF or a FTE. I called Glock and their customer service said their pistols are not capable of those kinds of malfunctions, and it must be something I was doing wrong. Well, after a dozen other seasoned shooters tried it with the same issue I received the same response from Glock customer service.

Therefore, all glock pistols are ****, and they have terrible customer service.

(See what I did there?)

[mnglocker]

Interesting question: If you fire a Glock lying on the bottom of the bathtub, will the bullet zip around the bathtub wall like NASCAR drivers at Darlington??

Answer: no. Now, someone owes me a new vanity...

He said TUB, not sink. A cast iron tub woul dbe awsome. Someone send this to mythbusters.

[Hmac]

Therefore, all glock pistols are ****, and they have terrible customer service.

(See what I did there?)

Yes. You took a one-off anecdote relative to your personal experience and applied it across the entire spectrum of firearms quality and now feel justified to opine that all Glocks are bad. See what I did there?

In the absence of randomized prospective analysis, or even Consumer Reports-level owners survey, all we are left with from an objectivity evaluation standpoint is preponderance of evidence. You are going to be hard pressed to find broad-based anti-glock anecdotes, while a simple google search will turn up a pretty consistent theme regarding DPMS quality and reliability.

I confess that I've never really owned a Hi-Tec. But a google search will turn up anecdotes from people who have put "thousands of rounds" through theirs with no problem. If anecdote is a sufficient reason assuming excellence in firearms, then the jury is still out on Hi-Tec, Glock, and DPMS.

[Stradawhovious]

while a simple google search will turn up a pretty consistent theme regarding DPMS quality and reliability.

Ah yes. The infamous Google search.

I hate to break it to you, but you can't always believe everything you read on the intrawebs. I wonder how many of those intraweb complaints were blindly parroted by people reading something on the internet then trying to sound smart on an intraweb argument, and how may of them were first had experience from people who have actually owned DPMS rifles.......

Makes one think.

And with that, I'm off to the range to send yet another 200 or so rounds down range, flawlessly, with my DPMS rifle. Much like the thousands and thousands of malfunction free rounds before them.

Have a nice day!

[ComradeBurg]

I hate to break it to you, but you can't always believe everything you read on the intrawebs.

Wait, WHAT?! But I thought everything posted on the Internet was indisputable truth! Thanks Strad you just ruined my entire knowledge base.

Seriously though a Google search looking for complaints doesn't tell use the thing we really need to know; the ration of rifles sold to failures. From the number of DPMS rifles I've seen I'm guessing they sell very well. I'd bet there are more people who own DPMS AR-15s and Colts since Colt rifles coast far more and you have to toss in your first born child to boot.

What we really need to know is how many DPMS rifles have sold vs. how many have failed. The next thing we need to find out is how many Colt rifles have sold vs. how many have failed. Then we can create a ratio to see which rifle has the higher rate of failures and how much higher one company's failure rate is over the other company's.

After all I can find you a ton of horror stories online involving any popular firearm.

[forcefed]

I once did a google search when I was in school and had to do a paper on unicorns. I clicked on a link and they were talking about unicorns. I couldn't believe it!I further researched it and found tons of websites about this amazing creature. I even found some videos on youtube about a particualr unicorn named Charlie.

I am going shooting with Strad now and put some flawless rounds down range in my AIDS infested AR

[Bessy]

I once did a google search when I was in school and had to do a paper on unicorns. I clicked on a link and they were talking about unicorns. I couldn't believe it!I further researched it and found tons of websites about this amazing creature. I even found some videos on youtube about a particualr unicorn named Charlie.

I am going shooting with Strad now and put some flawless rounds down range in my AIDS infested AR

I'd hate to find out what any one would say if they found out that I use my syphilitic del-ton ar in 3 gun... despite being horriblhy abused it runs flawless and groups less than 1 M.O.A. Shh.. don't tell anyone... that's it's not a cmmg gun like the lower says. I don't want them to know I got the clap.

[Pezhead]

On the internet I've found stuff about the Flat Earth Society, and if any one remembers the song In the Year 2525. If you sent this one company $500.00 they would invest it for you and you could collect the interest in the year 2525. You'd have to be cryogenicaly frozen and then thawed out.
I tell my boss if it's on the internet it's true. I'm just waiting for my laptop I won, they only needed some personal info.
I woould have no problems with one of there guns, I do like the Agency model. What type of AR will I get? Only time will tell.

[Hmac]

And with that, I'm off to the range to send yet another 200 or so rounds down range, flawlessly, with my DPMS rifle. Much like the thousands and thousands of malfunction free rounds before them.

Have a nice day!

The firearms you own and shoot are of no concern to me. As I said, there is a place for price-point, budget firearms, but you apparently already know this and have embraced the concept. I wish you good shooting.

[Stradawhovious]

The firearms you own and shoot are of no concern to me. As I said, there is a place for price-point, budget firearms, but you apparently already know this and have embraced the concept. I wish you good shooting.

I'm sure the above was not meant to be insulting............ So I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt on that. The fact is that for a whole lot of people, $900 for components to build a rifle, and another $600 in glass to top it is anything but a budget price point. I also researched exactly what I wanted and needed and put together the perfect rifle for me.

I guess what I'm saying is that just because you think something is a cheap piece of **** because you have to have the latest and greatest in special-ops equipment, doesn't make someone who buys a DPMS rifle a cheap bastard who "doesn't know anything about firearms".

[Bessy]

And with that, I'm off to the range to send yet another 200 or so rounds down range, flawlessly, with my DPMS rifle. Much like the thousands and thousands of malfunction free rounds before them.

Have a nice day!

The firearms you own and shoot are of no concern to me. As I said, there is a place for price-point, budget firearms, but you apparently already know this and have embraced the concept. I wish you good shooting.

Hey dude... I think you dropped your monocle.

[Stradawhovious]

[Hmac]

I'm sure the above was not meant to be insulting............ So I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt on that.

Thank you for that. This thread has been cordial and respectful of everyone's opinions so far -- I wouldn't want to be the one to deviate.

[Stradawhovious]

Thank you for that. This thread has been cordial and respectful of everyone's opinions so far -- I wouldn't want to be the one to deviate.

I'm glad you agree. We do try so very hard.

[Hmac]

Hey dude... I think you dropped your monocle.

Dude! You want I should use littler words?