Frontline drops the ball big time

[DeanC]

Feel free to give their comments section a workout.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... urce=feeds

Gunrunners
Investigating the saga of the WASR-10, an AK-47 knockoff and weapon of choice for Mexico's cartels. A Web-exclusive report.

[gyrfalcon]

Wikileaks tends to be bashed by people on this forum, but just look at the good they've also done by releasing secret info:

"Another series of leaked State Department cables made public this week by WikiLeaks lend credence to investigative reports on gun trafficking and the drug war published by Narco News as far back as 2009."

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebo ... wer-mexico

[Spike]

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-n ... -gunwalker

"The following is a summary and time line of articles appearing on the Sipsey Street Irregulars blog and Gun Rights Examiner, reflecting original reporting on the developing "Project Gunwalker" story by Mike Vanderboegh and myself. That's the purposely ironic name I assigned it, a parody of the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive's "Project Gunrunner," and it refers to allegations by whistleblowing ATF insiders that:

* ATF management was allowing potentially hundreds of semiautomatic firearms to be walked across the Mexican border in order to pad statistics used to further budget and power objectives.
* Mexican authorities were kept in the dark, and protests that they should be informed were overridden, first by the Phoenix ATF office, and ultimately by higher-ups in Washington, DC.
* A gun used in this operation was involved in a December 2010 incident in which a Border Patrol agent was killed.

..."

[Seismic Sam]

My reply to the liberal pinkos who wrote the original article:

And to expand on Mr. Miller's comments, seeing as the authors are probably painfully ignorant on what a "select fire rifle" is, it is a rifle where FULLY AUTOMATIC (i.e., machine gun or sub-machine gun) fire can be selected. The WASR-10 CANNOT be used in this way, and as such is totally inferior in firepower to fully automatic weapons. In addition, it should be noted that fully automatic weapons are THE choice of drug cartel assassins specifically because of their high rate of fire, and no self-respecting cartel member is going to settle for something like the WASR-10.

The entire line of reason advocated by this article is nothing more than a re-statement of the President of Mexico's belligerent assertion that all the violence in his country is the fault of the United States and its sale of semi-automatic weapons to Mexico, which is a complete lie. The country of Mexico is a known cesspool of public corruption at all levels, so most of the fully automatic weapons being used in the drug wars there may be coming from the Mexican military or police. And if they aren't coming from corrupt Mexican officials, then they ARE coming from the same place that the cocaine is coming from, which is Columbia. There the drug lords can openly import fully automatic weapons from anyplace in the world, and send them along with the drugs, which increases their profit margin, and also helps to protect the flow of their drugs into Mexico and the U.S.

And let's be clear about the membership of the drug cartel gangs in Mexico: They are fully trained paramilitary units who were principally recruited from Mexican and El Salvador (MS-13) Special Forces units who are paid many times more by the cartels than what the nearly bankrupt Mexican government can afford to pay its soldiers. Brutal, grinding poverty is what fuels the flow of illegals across the US border, and Mexico's military forces are just a vulnerable to temptation as anybody else.

So: Semi-automatic weapons are totally inferior in firepower to full automatic weapons, and are therefore not what anybody would choose who could afford better. Perhaps the WASR-10's are being recovered because anybody coming up in a cartel gang gets rid of it as soon as he can get a full automatic weapon. The fact of the matter is that fully automatic weapons are VERY heavily restricted in the United States, and ownership in some states is completely prohibited. As such, the flow of fully automatic military weapons from the United States is barely a trickle. The flow from corrupt Mexican officials dwarfs that trickle, and is in turn overshadowed by what the Columbian drug cartels can afford to buy and distribute weapons as much as they want. Your expose' is completely divorced from any amount of common sense or knowledge about firearms, and is typical from someone with a blatantly liberal bias, who knows guns are inherently bad, and whose private ownership should be completely prohibited in this country.

Thank God the SCOTUS had said unequivocally that your are wrong. Feel free to argue with their opinion all you want, gentlemen...

[gyrfalcon]

Apparently this is how they deal with dissenting opinions:

"Comments for this page are closed."

[Davedon]

"I am from Canada where we have a lot less crime, one tenth of the murders per capita that you have in the states. It would be fine if it was only the gun nuts in your country who kill each others but no, murder by handguns is one of your most consistent exportation. In my country we have the courage to live vulnerable because it is for the benefit of all, while you, with your guns, are a bunch of cowards.

Keep your guns for yourselves cowards."

this made me spit my coffee now i'm going to troll

[gyrfalcon]

...this made me spit my coffee now i'm going to troll

Can't anymore

[Davedon]

yea just tried posting...

[sochr000]

Meh, at least I got mine through, telling some fool towards the bottom of the page about what parts get changed out. If I had known they were going to close commenting I would have made my comment longer.

[Seismic Sam]

Well, my comment never made it onto the site, despite posting it over24 hours ago. I'd like to think that perhaps when they read mine, they discovered how culpable and ignorant they were in writing that bull twaddle, and ran for cover...

[DeanC]

"I am from Canada where we have a lot less crime, one tenth of the murders per capita that you have in the states. It would be fine if it was only the gun nuts in your country who kill each others but no, murder by handguns is one of your most consistent exportation. In my country we have the courage to live vulnerable because it is for the benefit of all, while you, with your guns, are a bunch of cowards.

I put my response in to this guy hours before I posted this link here and it never got posted. I simply pointed out (with a link) how his statistics were completely erroneous and how I, as a free man, was offended that someone who bows to the crown would question my courage.

[DeanC]

BTW - you can still report comments as offensive. I find unfounded accusations of cowardice offensive. I hope you do to.

[Rem700]

Well, my comment never made it onto the site, despite posting it over24 hours ago. I'd like to think that perhaps when they read mine, they discovered how culpable and ignorant they were in writing that bull twaddle, and ran for cover...

It was there when I checked it out.

[plink]

I put my response in to this guy hours before I posted this link here and it never got posted. I simply pointed out (with a link) how his statistics were completely erroneous and how I, as a free man, was offended that someone who bows to the crown would question my courage.

Knocking out the first amendment for the sake of knocking out the second amendment. What a novel approach!

[xd ED]

I put my response in to this guy hours before I posted this link here and it never got posted. I simply pointed out (with a link) how his statistics were completely erroneous and how I, as a free man, was offended that someone who bows to the crown would question my courage.

Knocking out the first amendment for the sake of knocking out the second amendment. What a novel approach!

There is much that can be said about the lack of professionalism, honesty, and integrity of Frontline, and it's practices, But a First Amendment issue, it is not:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Like any website or newspaper I might own, theirs is private property, and they, as owner, can, for the most part, publish what they wish.