Safe way to do FTF transactions

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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby xracer390 on Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:58 am

I have had a problem where a seller sugested a place that I did not feel comfortable at. I suggested another place (very near by) and they got all upset about it. I bailed on that one.
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby whiteox on Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:28 pm

Would it be unreasonable to ask for a copy of the buyer's photo ID and permit (or Seller's) before meeting? I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I'm not that paranoid about stuff like that.
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby lenny7 on Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:21 pm

xracer390 wrote:I have had a problem where a seller sugested a place that I did not feel comfortable at. I suggested another place (very near by) and they got all upset about it. I bailed on that one.


Suggesting a different meeting place probably raised their suspicions.
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby Snowgun on Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:31 pm

Gunshops are a fine place to meet, especially since they are not good places to draw down on someone... ;)
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby EastSideRich on Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:47 pm

I personally don't like the meeting in a parking lot thing; feels too much like a drug deal or something.
I would much rather meet in the comfort of my or the other party's home.
I would feel comfortable with most people on this forum, assuming they had been around for a while and after going over some of their past posts (especially if they had a history of buying/selling on here).
If it was someone with few posts on here, I guess I would try to go to a gun range if possible, or would meet in a parking lot -I just wouldn't like it.
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby JoeH on Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:37 pm

solidgun wrote:When I go to FTF transactions,

- I ask a friend to come along in a second car if the value of my firearm is a large amount (this varies on how safe I feel)
- I leave a timed email to be sent out to my family
- I leave a note
- I leave a voice message on my answering machine


Let me get this straight. You are admittedly paranoid about firearm transfer transactions. Yet, you post on an internet forum that you inherited $60,000+ in 1911s. :roll:
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby cobb on Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:48 pm

I've bought and sold guns in parking lots before. One was a Perkins, a Cabela's, a SA gas station, a strip mall on W. 7th St., plus a few others that I can not recall and never had a problem. :D
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby Seismic Sam on Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:53 pm

timwarner wrote:Just bring me or shippy along. They'll think twice about who is the unsavory character of the transaction.
I think we both work for beer.
or whiskey
or vodka
probably rum


Or VIRGIN 9mm cases??? :P
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby JJ on Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:53 pm

cobb wrote:I've bought and sold guns in parking lots before. One was a Perkins, a Cabela's, a SA gas station, a strip mall on W. 7th St., plus a few others that I can not recall and never had a problem. :D


I've done more FTF sales in parking lots than anywhere else. You can do them in a parking lot relatively discrete. I usually will just move the gun to the back seat of my vehicle and allow or preform an inspection. I personally don't want people to come to my house, nor do I care to enter theirs.
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby xracer390 on Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:09 am

lenny7 wrote:
xracer390 wrote:I have had a problem where a seller sugested a place that I did not feel comfortable at. I suggested another place (very near by) and they got all upset about it. I bailed on that one.


Suggesting a different meeting place probably raised their suspicions.

The difference between the place they suggested and mine was that with thier place nobody would have ever found my body............... :o
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby Drizzle on Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:04 am

As I understand it, gun shops do not want you doing transactions in their parking lots, as it can get them in mucho trouble with the ATF. Something to do with unlicensed sale on their premises? Someone who knows exactly what it is can chime in.

However, since most people know where places like Bill's are, I often suggest meeting a parking lot either across the street from or next to a gun shop. For example, there's never anyone in the strip mall across from Bill's North.
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby Rem700 on Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:07 am

[quote="EastSideRich"]I personally don't like the meeting in a parking lot thing; feels too much like a drug deal or something.


And you would know this because? :P
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby Spartan on Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:52 am

I have a done some FTF transactions. I have had guys come to my office... I had my emplolyee in the next room with Colt. I went to one of those guys homes to do a FTF ... I was alone and nervous in even with a Sig on my hip... I found out he had an an FFL when I got there. Whew.
I my best feeling is skip any transaction that ""feels" weird.
Bring a good man along to cover "6" and listen to his gut..... ( buy him lunch when its done)
dont bother Using an open line cell phone.... (some else hears the shots and you might get the EMTs or the Coroner there a few minutes faster)
Use common sense.....

Dont go to north Minneapolis by boarded up warehouses
Avoid cemeteries, docks, junk yards, water fronts, meat packing plants, papermills, livestock feeding lots and Zoos
Avoid meeting at I 35 rest stops at "Sun UP"

I say again, unless you know the somebody ... bring a good man along....
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby Seismic Sam on Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:02 am

Spartan wrote:I say again, unless you know the somebody ... bring a good man along....


Or somebody who looks and acts like Shipyard.... You do realize what a deadly weapon a sissy-foah of malt liquor is if you get whacked over the head with it? :P
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Re: Safe way to do FTF transactions

Postby hornswaggle on Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:55 am

I would recommend directing the potential buyer to pick up a prepaid cell phone that you leave along side a park bench, then direct them to criss cross around the city while you follow from behind watching for a tail. Then have them go to the nearest airport and go through the TSA pat-down screening where you will meet them and go to a waiting taxi to be dropped off at a prepared location that has live streaming web cams monitored by no less than 3 LEO's. Oh wait, that might have been a Bruce Willis or Clint Eastwood movie I was thinking about. Nevermind... :D
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