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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby Squib Joe on Fri May 13, 2011 6:58 pm

Who cares what this Soucheray guy thinks? How many hundred people still listen to AM radio?
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby nyffman on Fri May 13, 2011 7:06 pm

Squib Joe wrote:Who cares what this Soucheray guy thinks? How many hundred people still listen to AM radio?

Good questions. I just searched through all the shows on XM and couldn't find any "Soucheray". Must not be important.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby Dave Pendleton on Fri May 13, 2011 7:12 pm

Joe still has a pretty loyal following, even after the station change. His Arbitron numbers haven't changed that much.

He's a nice guy. We have some mutual friends.

He's not a "conservative," despite the best efforts of "conservatives" to claim him as their own. Today's commentary just illustrates he's not easily classified.

As near as I can gather, Joe longs for the America of the Eisenhower administration, which is long gone and never to return.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby xd ED on Fri May 13, 2011 8:19 pm

nyffman wrote:
Squib Joe wrote:Who cares what this Soucheray guy thinks? How many hundred people still listen to AM radio?

Good questions. I just searched through all the shows on XM and couldn't find any "Soucheray". Must not be important.


10-12 years ago, Soucheray was nearing the local radio personna clout of Tom Bernard, or Steve Cannon. He/ KSTP AM had the distinction of being the only guy/ market in the country who drew more local listeners than did the show preceeding his- Rush Limbaugh. I have to believe that today's ratings are nothing like that, however.

I suppose if someone was driven to do so, a well written email might get some airplay, simply because it would be good radio. I doubt you'll convert Joe, As DeanC pointed out he has long advocated the super-magnet to suck up all those bad guns, and I equally doubt it would matter. Much like the mpr forum, it's entertainment, and it gives both sides a chance to say 'hooray for us', without inspiring anyone else to contact their elected representatives, which is the only thing that will move the ball in either direction.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby 12smile on Fri May 13, 2011 8:21 pm

Sorry Joe is a has-been...he's counting the weeks to retirement....used to be a fan but havent
heard him in 2 years....didn't know he was still around...100.3 and 1280 does it for me.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby nyffman on Fri May 13, 2011 8:25 pm

As does XM for me. I listened to him regularly in the late 90's. Haven't caught any more than a snippet in the last several years.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby Jeff Bergquist on Sat May 14, 2011 1:26 am

cmj685 wrote:Unfortunately about five minutes ago Garage Logic spent about 10 minutes refuting the need for the Stand Your Ground legislation. Their point was that the current bill is good enough. That viewpoint seems to be gathering momentum; comments such as "Why should anyone be allowed to shoot a teenager who breaks into the garage to steal a bike" are becoming commonplace to refute the legislation. We really need some good people to stand up and make excellent arguments for the logic of this legislation at this point, I think.


My opinion is that people should understand that private property and personal privacy are (or at least were) sacred to the American way of life, and that to willfully violate them was a risk to ones own life.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby nolando on Sat May 14, 2011 8:34 am

I wish they would have done a poll before this started asking the general public (particularly the gun owning) what to do when they suspect someone is in their house. Until my carry class, I had no idea that one was supposed to retreat first to a safe place. How many other people didn't know that? Then inform those people what the ramifications are when the DA determines you hadn't done that. I think that would be a strong argument for this law.

I'm not saying I would come out guns ablazin', but I also probably wouldn't wait in the corner of my bathroom hoping for the police to show up.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby traveler on Sat May 14, 2011 4:49 pm

12smile wrote:Sorry Joe is a has-been...he's counting the weeks to retirement....used to be a fan but havent
heard him in 2 years....didn't know he was still around...100.3 and 1280 does it for me.


Well said. My sentiments exactly.

If Joe had even the slightest conservative bent he would be at Pat's neck on a daily basis. Joe and Pat are cut from the same cloth - just different colors.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby jaydubs on Sat May 14, 2011 10:38 pm

nolando wrote:I wish they would have done a poll before this started asking the general public (particularly the gun owning) what to do when they suspect someone is in their house. Until my carry class, I had no idea that one was supposed to retreat first to a safe place. How many other people didn't know that? Then inform those people what the ramifications are when the DA determines you hadn't done that. I think that would be a strong argument for this law.

I'm not saying I would come out guns ablazin', but I also probably wouldn't wait in the corner of my bathroom hoping for the police to show up.


Besides the lower rent, I guess I can add one more advantage to living in my tiny studio apartment.

DA: Why didn't you retreat from the intruder?

Me: I live in a 1 room apartment. What was I supposed to do? Jump out the window?
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby Dave Pendleton on Sat May 14, 2011 10:54 pm

I think what I enjoy most is when I encounter folks who are long-time Soucheray devotees, and they discover that their views differ from his, and that he isn't anything all what they thought he'd be.

Joe likes cars, motorcycles and old boats (that's my connection to him). He's not a big fan of your guns, or your ability to own or use them.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby macphisto on Sat May 14, 2011 11:02 pm

He delves into The Mystery, though, and that's what keeps me coming back. That and Rookie. And Scrambles. And the annual Garage Door Opener. Crap, it's one of the best things going in this modern age of radio.

His ignorance on the gun bill showed. His rant against it pissed me off, but I'm gonna let him slide.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby Dave Pendleton on Sat May 14, 2011 11:18 pm

Agreed. I like the show. I laugh along every day on my ride home.

I just don't blindly accept the role of Garage Logician, as some folks do. Joe is full of **** on a lot of issues, in my opinion.
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby Greg on Sun May 15, 2011 1:41 am

Dave Pendleton wrote:Agreed. I like the show. I laugh along every day on my ride home.

I just don't blindly accept the role of Garage Logician, as some folks do. Joe is full of **** on a lot of issues, in my opinion.


The guy is a good writer and his written stuff is usually very good but the radio show is mostly stupid, time wasting stuff. On the radio he is a second rate Limbaugh wannabe!
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Re: Garage Logic against Stand Your Ground

Postby Dave Pendleton on Sun May 15, 2011 2:05 am

Greg wrote:
Dave Pendleton wrote:Agreed. I like the show. I laugh along every day on my ride home.

I just don't blindly accept the role of Garage Logician, as some folks do. Joe is full of **** on a lot of issues, in my opinion.


The guy is a good writer and his written stuff is usually very good but the radio show is mostly stupid, time wasting stuff. On the radio he is a second rate Limbaugh wannabe!


And time wasting is all I need on my commute home. Nobody's on 2M anyway...

I'm not a Limbaugh fan.
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