Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby SparkyJeff on Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:29 pm

DeanC wrote:These should do just fine:

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Since there aren't any zombies anyhow.


Thank You DeanC

Or you could use one of these

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I really like shooting cheap wolf ammo, I've seen pictures of zombies at the range. I suppose you could shoot them with steel cased ammo.
I support anybody storing any amount of any ammo for any reason. Buy it cheap and stock it deep.
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Re: Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby Scott Notaeh on Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:29 pm

DeanC wrote:These should do just fine:

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Since there aren't any zombies anyhow.

But if there were zombies, I'd grab the rifle for primary, another rifle for backup, as much rifle ammo as possible, and the pistol to turn on myself as a last resort. Cause if the rifles didnt work, all hope is lost. Then i'd get far away from all zombies.

I,d still use JHP in the pistol but there is no longer any reason to have lots of it.
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby xd ED on Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:36 pm

DeanC wrote:These should do just fine:

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Since there aren't any zombies anyhow.


Maybe true...
But if there were zombies, that would be the kind of thing they'd say... justa sayin'
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby catalyst686 on Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:56 pm

I've never had a problem running them in my Glocks, they burn pretty dirty though but I don't care.
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby yuppiejr on Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:32 pm

http://www.weaponsworld.com/ammunition/ ... -case.html

$199 shipped for 1000 rounds of Swiss made, brass cased, boxer primed 124 grain 9mm FMJ - not JHP but if you're looking to plink/blow holes in stuff it should do the job, no sales tax.
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby Quasar on Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:54 pm

yuppiejr wrote:http://www.weaponsworld.com/ammunition/pistol-ammunition/9mm-parabellum/rws-9mm-luger-ammunition-124-grain-full-metal-jacket-1000-round-case.html

$199 shipped for 1000 rounds of Swiss made, brass cased, boxer primed 124 grain 9mm FMJ - not JHP but if you're looking to plink/blow holes in stuff it should do the job, no sales tax.


Nice find yuppie thanks!
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby grousemaster on Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:10 pm

DeanC wrote:These should do just fine:

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Since there aren't any zombies anyhow.



I keep hearing about how bad steel is for your pistol, but I have shot hundreds if not thousands and never an issue. My LCP has about a 1% failure rate with steel but Glocks and XD's have run perfect. My friends do the same, never had an issue. The few bucks you save on steel can mean a few more boxes of ammo each year. Anyways, after the tens of thousands of rounds it would take to ruin a gun (if it even does), you could could buy a couple new guns with the savings. To answer your question, yes it would be fine zombie ammo if you have a glock.....just practice clearing malfunctions.
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby Quasar on Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:28 pm

grousemaster wrote:
DeanC wrote:These should do just fine:

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Since there aren't any zombies anyhow.



I keep hearing about how bad steel is for your pistol, but I have shot hundreds if not thousands and never an issue. My LCP has about a 1% failure rate with steel but Glocks and XD's have run perfect. My friends do the same, never had an issue. The few bucks you save on steel can mean a few more boxes of ammo each year. Anyways, after the tens of thousands of rounds it would take to ruin a gun (if it even does), you could could buy a couple new guns with the savings. To answer your question, yes it would be fine zombie ammo if you have a glock.....just practice clearing malfunctions.


Just because steel is a bit harder on the barrel, slide, ejector...and the powder get's in the gun more. You make a good point but for me I'd rather buy that Swiss made stuff. The difference in price isn't enough for me to use wolf and as you stated brass runs a bit more reliably. Run quality ammunition in you quality gun, run wolf in the Kel Tecs :bolt:
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby Scott Notaeh on Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:21 pm

grousemaster wrote:
I keep hearing about how bad steel is for your pistol, but I have shot hundreds if not thousands and never an issue. My LCP has about a 1% failure rate with steel but Glocks and XD's have run perfect. My friends do the same, never had an issue. The few bucks you save on steel can mean a few more boxes of ammo each year. Anyways, after the tens of thousands of rounds it would take to ruin a gun (if it even does), you could could buy a couple new guns with the savings. To answer your question, yes it would be fine zombie ammo if you have a glock.....just practice clearing malfunctions.


But if the brass cased stuff is the same price, why run steel? Plus you can sell your brass that the zombies don't get.

If you don't want to order off the internet, here is 1000 rounds of brass S&B for $190 but you got to pay the man the sales tax too.
http://www.a1ammo.com/products/sellier- ... on/sb9acs/
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby Dave Pendleton on Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:27 pm

I think Russian and Chinese ammo used to be a good deal.

Lately it seems like they are catching up, price-wise.

The OP's ammo isn't such a good deal (as others have demonstrated), Natchez offers Blazer, UMC and AE brass at comparable prices several times a year.

I don't know if steel casings are any harder on a gun, but I do know that lacquered stuff is a mess in a hot AR.
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby Cadet on Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:29 pm

you want 22 for zombs, It will penetrate through their decaying skulls once, but loses to much velocity to penetrate again, so it bounces around in the brain a few times, kills em dead :P
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby The Lance on Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:25 pm

Come on people what happened to one shot one kill.. whether its steel or brass all ammo would be good ammo in the event of a zombie apocalypse.. God forbid of course.


I guess I should have been more clear and stated are these deadly enough in the event I need to use them as I would have upto a thousand rounds. Thanks for all the good deals you guys posted I will certainly be buying the brass ammo for my glock to use at the range
So I will stock up on range ammo along with emergency ammo now. I just hope I don't start using my emergency ammo for ******* and giggles..

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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby Snowgun on Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:59 pm

Steel cases only really wear on the extractor, not the barrel.

Put it to paper:

Go figure out how much a new extractor costs:

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseP ... **18314***

$15-20 bucks.

How many rounds does it take to wear out an extractor? Lets say 2000. (extremely low but for giggles lets run with it).

So for $9 a box of fifty, you've just spent $360 bucks on ammo. If you would have spent $10 (good deal!) on a box of 50 brass cases, thats $400.

You have just saved $40. Minus the extractor, $20.

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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby Gustavs01 on Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:48 pm

Problem with any non coated steel case ammo, is that if just left in a box or ammo can they WILL start to corrode. I bought over 2000 rounds of 223 wolf back when prices started going through the roof in '08, and I opened up my ammo cans just to check out how they were doing and even being put in plastic bags with moisture absorber they started to corrode. Steel ammo is good for plinking but not for long term storage unless you vacuum seal them (which is what I should have done), But really in truth any type of ammo is good to have if the Zombies or SHTF, beats having your Pecker in one hand and an empty gun in the other.
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Re: Would you trust these 9mm bullets for Zombie Defense?

Postby yuppiejr on Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:18 pm

$9.64 per box = Wolf 9mm 115 grain at Fleet Farm (with tax, we'll assume the gas is inconsequential) - a case costs $192.80
$9.99 per box = RWS 9mm 124 grain at WeaponsWorld.com (no tax, shipped) - a case lot costs $199.99

Technically you are getting more material for your money with the extra 9 grains of lead per round with the RWS (I have always preferred the heavier 124 grain in my 9mm's, but to each their own)... if you're really chucking ball ammo at Zombies the extra weight is going to be a plus... not to mention this is also also brass cased, boxed primed ammo produced in Europe and loaded to NATO spec that's good enough to be Sig Sauer's go to test-ammo. If you don't mind picking up your brass you could probably sell it to a re-loader and make $10-$20 easily offsetting the difference in price.. and it's SIGNIFICANTLY better ammo.

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