Permit to Purchase time

[Pat Cannon]

From http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/ ... un-permits:

Permits to Purchase Handguns:
Applicants for permits to purchase handguns must apply in person to the police department in the city in which they live and present a valid Minnesota driver's license or identification card with their current address. If there is no police department, they must apply to the sheriff's office in the county in which they reside. Minneapolis residents may apply for a permit to purchase (not carry) in Minneapolis City Hall, 350 South 5 th Street, Room 1-A, Minneapolis, MN 55415. Public service hours are 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m., Monday through Friday.

I live in Minneapolis. As I recall my purchase permit took about 9 or 10 days. That was back around 1999, when the Revolutionary War was still fresh in people's minds.

[GunGoogler]

I am still curious if umnshooter applied at the correct location. It appears from the OP that the application was to Hennepin County for a PTP, but isn't all of Hennepin county urban or city? If so, then a PTP application would have to be made to the chief of police of the city of residence. If all assumptions are correct, hell may freeze over before Hennepin County responds to a PTP application from a city resident.

Good catch. OP should clarify what city he lives in and where he dropped the PTP application or he may weight forever.

[IDPA Shooter]

I am still curious if umnshooter applied at the correct location. It appears from the OP that the application was to Hennepin County for a PTP, but isn't all of Hennepin county urban or city? If so, then a PTP application would have to be made to the chief of police of the city of residence. If all assumptions are correct, hell may freeze over before Hennepin County responds to a PTP application from a city resident.

Some areas of Hennepin have no police force and are covered only by the Sheriff. That said, I think you are correct that most areas in Hennepin have police.


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[umnshooter]

I live in the city and applied at the Minneapolis city hall, there is a sheriffs office in there. I think it's the right place.

[BBeckwith]

Are you saying you applied with the Hennepin County Sheriff? PTP applications need to go to Minneapolis PD.

[connsolo]

Well you might as well take your ptc course and get the paperwork going right away.

[SparkyJeff]

I live in the city and applied at the Minneapolis city hall, there is a sheriffs office in there. I think it's the right place.

IIRC (If I remember correctly) there are two different offices in downtown MPLS.

For a city of Mpls P2P you go to the 1st floor of

Minneapolis City Hall,
350 South 5 th Street, Room 1-A,
Minneapolis, MN 55415.

For a Hennepin County Permit to carry you go to the 6th floor of.

Hennepin County Sheriffs Office
400 South 4th Street
Suite 600 (South Grain Exchange)
Minneapolis, MN 55415

[EAJuggalo]

My PTP in Minneapolis took 8 days in 2003. My PTC took 14 days in 2004 from Dakota County

[onebohemian]

I wouldn't think the Sheriff would have even had the proper form to complete, and I doubt the Sheriff would have provided a PTC application to someone that couldn't produce his certificate from a completed course. In other words, I have to assume that the OP submitted the proper form to the Mpls Police Dept.

Rhetorically, how has the OP not yet answered other posters' simple inquiries of where exactly he applied for his permit to purchase? Frustrating.

Good luck to the OP.

[westhope]

I wouldn't think the Sheriff would have even had the proper form to complete, and I doubt the Sheriff would have provided a PTC application to someone that couldn't produce his certificate from a completed course. In other words, I have to assume that the OP submitted the proper form to the Mpls Police Dept.

Rhetorically, how has the OP not yet answered other posters' simple inquiries of where exactly he applied for his permit to purchase? Frustrating.

Good luck to the OP.

The Sheriff should have both Permit To Carry and Permit To Purchase forms. Both forms are standard forms from the MN BCA used by all departments.

Permit To Purchase: https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-di ... armApp.pdf

Permit To Carry: https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-di ... cation.pdf

Note: Both forms have a receipt as the last page which should be given to the applicant when submitted.

A police department should ONLY use the Permit To Purchase form. They cannot submit a Permit To Carry application, that must be done through the Sheriff.

When I liven in a town (Owatonna, Steele county), about 15 years ago, you were required to personally pick-up the P2P. They were NOT mailed out, you were NOT notified when they were done. You were told they take 2 weeks and the women taking the application did not give a damn what the law stated. She told me to take that up with the Attorney General after I asked to speak to her supervisor!

[XDM45]

I wouldn't think the Sheriff would have even had the proper form to complete, and I doubt the Sheriff would have provided a PTC application to someone that couldn't produce his certificate from a completed course. In other words, I have to assume that the OP submitted the proper form to the Mpls Police Dept.

Rhetorically, how has the OP not yet answered other posters' simple inquiries of where exactly he applied for his permit to purchase? Frustrating.

Good luck to the OP.

The Sheriff should have both Permit To Carry and Permit To Purchase forms. Both forms are standard forms from the MN BCA used by all departments.

Permit To Purchase: https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-di ... armApp.pdf

Permit To Carry: https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-di ... cation.pdf

Note: Both forms have a receipt as the last page which should be given to the applicant when submitted.

A police department should ONLY use the Permit To Purchase form. They cannot submit a Permit To Carry application, that must be done through the Sheriff.

When I liven in a town (Owatonna, Steele county), about 15 years ago, you were required to personally pick-up the P2P. They were NOT mailed out, you were NOT notified when they were done. You were told they take 2 weeks and the women taking the application did not give a damn what the law stated. She told me to take that up with the Attorney General after I asked to speak to her supervisor!

THanks for the links.

[umnshooter]

Solved!!!!

It came in the mail today, surprisingly, I thought i had to go pick it up too. So it took all of 17 days. i guess they just don't mail it in on time, because it does say it expires on jun 15 2013, so it must have been approved 7 days later and just takes them a while to get it out. I don't even know if i'm right to blame them. but techinically, they could approve me in 7 days and never mail it out.

Sorry for not making it more clear in my previous posts, but the city of minneapolis website tells you exactly where to go, which is posted on their website. City Hall. I think i fail to forget how many people here is not from the cities. Here is a link: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/ ... un-permits

That's why i'm pretty sure i went to the right place, but just haven't seen the permit.

Thanks everyone for your help, sorry to get you guys a little riled up.

[westhope]

http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/ ... _gun-check

The above link is from the MPLS site linked in the prior reply. I find it misleading concerning the process of a Permit To Purchase and surely for a Permit To Carry. The statement I find misleading is:

To begin the process of a background investigation for a permit to purchase or permit to carry a firearm (not a "Conceal and Carry" permit), you must complete an application in person at:

I have problem with the words " To begin".

First, the Mpls. Police department has NOTHING to do with issueing a Permit To Carry. You do not BEGIN the process with them, it is done by the Sheriff. As far as a Permit To Purchase, the WHOLE process, is filling out the form. There are no preliminary steps you must take.

Again, I am not surprized another Police department is not concerned about following the law that the P2P must be issued in 7 days.

One pleasant surprise, they stated it is a "Permit To Carry" not a "CONCEALED CARRY" permit.

[GunGoogler]

Solved!!!!

It came in the mail today, surprisingly, I thought i had to go pick it up too. So it took all of 17 days. i guess they just don't mail it in on time, because it does say it expires on jun 15 2013, so it must have been approved 7 days later and just takes them a while to get it out. I don't even know if i'm right to blame them. but techinically, they could approve me in 7 days and never mail it out.

Sorry for not making it more clear in my previous posts, but the city of minneapolis website tells you exactly where to go, which is posted on their website. City Hall. I think i fail to forget how many people here is not from the cities. Here is a link: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/ ... un-permits

That's why i'm pretty sure i went to the right place, but just haven't seen the permit.

Thanks everyone for your help, sorry to get you guys a little riled up.

In fairness, this group--myself included--gets riled up pretty easy. I call it the internet button, as in, "Oooh that dude just hit the internet button".

Congrats on the arrival of the permit. I know how much it sucks to wait, completely unaware of what to expect when the law makes clear the expectations.

[mnwoody]

I know this is an older topic but I strongly believe the Mn Statute below would apply to the Sheriff or Police Chief if they do not return your Permit to Purchase in the seven days. I know it will be tough to move a County Attorney to file charges. The CA will come back and tell you this is a civil matter, but being it is a 609 Statute, this makes it a criminal matter. In reality the CA's refusal to uphold the law would also fall under this same Statute. Just be persistent in your pursuit

609.43 MISCONDUCT OF PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.
A public officer or employee who does any of the following, for which no other sentence is specifically provided by law, may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both:

(1) intentionally fails or refuses to perform a known mandatory, nondiscretionary, ministerial duty of the office or employment within the time or in the manner required by law; or

(2) in the capacity of such officer or employee, does an act knowing it is in excess of lawful authority or knowing it is forbidden by law to be done in that capacity; or

(3) under pretense or color of official authority intentionally and unlawfully injures another in the other's person, property, or rights; or

(4) in the capacity of such officer or employee, makes a return, certificate, official report, or other like document having knowledge it is false in any material respect.