Shipping gun from Las Vegas

[mrp]

I'm heading out west camping for several weeks (by car) and will be flying back from California. My cursory reading of the gun laws leads me to believe I can't transport a pistol into California nor the California city I'm flying out of. Even if I could, I won't be checking any baggage and would prefer not to out myself as a crazy gun nut to the folks I have to deal with out there.

I'll be passing through Las Vegas right before I go to California, and am considering shipping it back from there. Again, my cursory reading says that I could ship it to myself without breaking any laws, but that it's impossible since all of the shipping companies (FedEx, UPS) require that I ship to an FFL.

So, my questions:

1. Have I got the basics correct?
2. Anyone know of an inexpensive FFL close to Northfield?
3. Anything else I should consider?

[Squib Joe]

You can ship it to yourself using UPS, but you you'll have to find a UPS Customer Center in Vegas - not a "UPS Store". There is one just south of the airport

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resour ... earms.html


https://maps.google.com/maps?q=ups+cust ... 5&t=h&z=16

[photogpat]

What type of pistol are you bringing? I've been into and through CA many times by air with my xD45c without any hassles. Just have to know you can't carry it, nor possess any mags over 10rds. I simply carried it in a locked case, unloaded and disassembled. Check it in at the airline counter.

Here's a good summary - particularly pages 28 & 29: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/firearms/forms/Cfl2007.pdf?

• The transportation or carrying of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person by any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years
who resides or is temporarily within this state, and is not within the excepted classes
prescribed by Penal Code Sections 12021 or 12021.1 or Welfare and Institutions Code sections
8100 or 8103, provided that the following applies:
- the firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a locked container
in the vehicle other than the utility or glove compartment, and;
- when the firearm is carried by the person to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose, the
firearm must be contained in a locked container while being physically carried. (Penal Code §
12026.1.)

[mrp]

Thanks guys!

After further review, and re-reading for comprehension some of the stuff I skimmed earlier, I'm going to keep it with me and check a bag rather than shipping it. I could not have used FedEx, and UPS would cost $75.

For future reference, here's what I learned:

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html#shipping-firearms-additional

Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?

Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

http://www.fedex.com/us/freight/rulestariff/prohibited_articles.html

Firearms
Carrier will transport and deliver firearms as defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, between areas served in the U.S., but only between:
Licensed importers; licensed manufacturers; licensed dealers; licensed collectors; law enforcement agencies of the U.S.or any department or agency thereof; and law enforcement agencies of any state or any department, agency or political subdivisions thereof; or
Where not prohibited by local, state and federal law, from individuals to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers or licensed dealers (and return of same).

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/guidelines/firearms.html

Special Procedures for Shipping Firearms
Use These UPS Services for Your Firearm Shipment
UPS accepts packages containing firearms [...] from and between persons not otherwise prohibited from shipping firearms by federal, state or local law, and when such shipment complies with all federal, state and local laws applicable to the shipper, recipient, and package.

Handguns, as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 921,will be accepted for transportation only via UPS Next Day Air Services, specifically, UPS Next Day Air® Early A.M.®, UPS Next Day Air®, and UPS Next Day Air Saver®. (Note: UPS Express CriticalSM Service is not available for firearms).

About Documentation and Labeling
The shipper must use Delivery Confirmation Adult Signature Required service for each package containing a firearm, including a handgun, and affix a UPS label requesting an adult signature upon delivery.

Getting Your Firearm Shipment to UPS
Firearms (including handguns) may be shipped only through a UPS Scheduled Pickup Account (specifically, Daily Pickup, Daily On-Route Pickup, UPS Smart Pickup®, and Day-Specific Pickup), or through a UPS Customer Center (counters at UPS operational facilities). Note: Firearms (including handguns) are not accepted for shipment via, UPS Drop Boxes, UPS On-Call PickupSM, or at locations of The UPS Store® or any third party retailer.

[GunGoogler]

Thanks guys!

After further review, and re-reading for comprehension some of the stuff I skimmed earlier, I'm going to keep it with me and check a bag rather than shipping it. I could not have used FedEx, and UPS would cost $75.

Wow. I just shipped a pistol across the country through UPS and it only cost about $40 with insurance.

[mrp]

Thanks guys!

After further review, and re-reading for comprehension some of the stuff I skimmed earlier, I'm going to keep it with me and check a bag rather than shipping it. I could not have used FedEx, and UPS would cost $75.

Wow. I just shipped a pistol across the country through UPS and it only cost about $40 with insurance.

They require Next Day Air, and the cheapest option was $70 according to their website. (UPS Next Day Air Saver) That didn't include insurance.

[GunGoogler]

Thanks guys!

After further review, and re-reading for comprehension some of the stuff I skimmed earlier, I'm going to keep it with me and check a bag rather than shipping it. I could not have used FedEx, and UPS would cost $75.

Wow. I just shipped a pistol across the country through UPS and it only cost about $40 with insurance.

They require Next Day Air, and the cheapest option was $70 according to their website. (UPS Next Day Air Saver) That didn't include insurance.

Yep, same here. I shipped it next day air saver, with some accessories and the pistol, and $1000 insurance for $41 and change.