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[LS3Miata]

To a WTB Glock 17 request.

Me - I have a G17 my wife no longer shoots since getting her G26. I'll sell it for $375 ( i didn't offer this but, $350 would have been ok)

Him - $300 cash tonight. I can meet you in an hour.

Me - please don't insult me. BTW, cash is not an incentive, it is a requirement.

[Lunchbox]

Seller: WTT LNIB M1A Loaded w/ Walnut stock in 308. Great gun, but I want something else. Tell me what you got.

Potential trader #1: I have a crate full of Mosin Nagants, how many do you want?

Potential trader #2: I have a box full of Jennings and Hipoint pistols. Say 3 Jennings J-22's and 2 Hipoint .40's?


(I'm just trying to help out TH3180 get this back on track.)

Are Shippy and Strad both bidding on this rifle?

With offers like that who else would it be?

Now that I think of it I don't think you'll be able to separate Strad from a mosin for a m1a. I could be wrong, jus making an assumption as an after thought. And yes I know what they say about assumptions.

[snlit3]

in hopes of more material for this thread i listed some things there, no entertainment though

[ijosef]

To a WTB Glock 17 request.

Me - I have a G17 my wife no longer shoots since getting her G26. I'll sell it for $375 ( i didn't offer this but, $350 would have been ok)

Him - $300 cash tonight. I can meet you in an hour.

Me - please don't insult me. BTW, cash is not an incentive, it is a requirement.

I'm not disagreeing with your actions or your take on the situation, but I view things in a different light. I view such things as a normal part of the buying & selling process. If someone says the price is $375 (doesn't say OBO or FIRM), he/she can probably expect to get lower offers. Three hundred really isn't that out of the ordinary in my opinion. I think I posted this earlier in the thread, but someone offered me "$200 cash money" on a rifle I posted for $350. On offers like that, I can simply say 'no thanks' or not respond. It does me no harm.

I guess I don't understand why people let themselves get insulted by what they perceive to be low offers. The potential buyer/tire-kicker is trying to get a good price and nothing more - it's the seller who is construing the offer as an insult and choosing to take it so. If it's just email or text then that's no big deal. The only time it's an insult is when the buyer makes a promises and takes up a considerable amount of your time. I've had people agree to buy, meet me at a location, tire-kick the gun to death, then either say "I'll pass" or give me a lowball offer. That irritates me as they've wasted my time & money, but if it's just email then I don't really care.

[XDM45]

To a WTB Glock 17 request.

Me - I have a G17 my wife no longer shoots since getting her G26. I'll sell it for $375 ( i didn't offer this but, $350 would have been ok)

Him - $300 cash tonight. I can meet you in an hour.

Me - please don't insult me. BTW, cash is not an incentive, it is a requirement.

I'm not disagreeing with your actions or your take on the situation, but I view things in a different light. I view such things as a normal part of the buying & selling process. If someone says the price is $375 (doesn't say OBO or FIRM), he/she can probably expect to get lower offers. Three hundred really isn't that out of the ordinary in my opinion. I think I posted this earlier in the thread, but someone offered me "$200 cash money" on a rifle I posted for $350. On offers like that, I can simply say 'no thanks' or not respond. It does me no harm.

I guess I don't understand why people let themselves get insulted by what they perceive to be low offers. The potential buyer/tire-kicker is trying to get a good price and nothing more - it's the seller who is construing the offer as an insult and choosing to take it so. If it's just email or text then that's no big deal. The only time it's an insult is when the buyer makes a promises and takes up a considerable amount of your time. I've had people agree to buy, meet me at a location, tire-kick the gun to death, then either say "I'll pass" or give me a lowball offer. That irritates me as they've wasted my time & money, but if it's just email then I don't really care.

Every seller thinks their items is worth more than it is, and every buyer wants to pay the least amount possible. It's a basic principle of business to buy low and sell high, but there's often an overlooked factor which is desire. Sometimes the desire is on the part of the seller because they just want the item gone, but often times it's for financial reasons and they need to sell the item to get another item or to pay bills, in either case, it's a financial issue where the seller is either under-capitalized, desperate, or both. This is NEVER a good place to be, and especially so whenever you're trying to sell something because people can read it as bright as day.

Buyers are sometimes the same way....desperate to purchase that one item they covet, and this is also a point of desperation which will often times influence financial decisions. I'm not trying to derail the thread here, but I think rather than poke fun at craigslist ads, armslist ads, ad infinitum, it's better to understand the psychology behind them so YOU can get the better deal whether you are the seller or the buyer. There's a multitude of books out there on marketing, psychology, etc, and they are worth looking into.

I've never pawned anything in my life, only once have I ever sold anything out of desperation, and I'll never do that again. When I do sell something, it's because I WANT to, not because I NEED to. It will sell eventually, and if not, no big deal. In time, all buyers and sellers will meet. If an item is especially rare and noteworthy, buyers will seek out the seller of such an item.

Now if the point is to make fun of people for their ads, by all means, people can choose to look at it as a source of entertainment, but I look at such things as a source of financial opportunity.

[scout]

Something is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

[Shipyard]

Seller: WTT LNIB M1A Loaded w/ Walnut stock in 308. Great gun, but I want something else. Tell me what you got.

Potential trader #1: I have a crate full of Mosin Nagants, how many do you want?

Potential trader #2: I have a box full of Jennings and Hipoint pistols. Say 3 Jennings J-22's and 2 Hipoint .40's?


(I'm just trying to help out TH3180 get this back on track.)

Are Shippy and Strad both bidding on this rifle?

Hey now - we RESEMBLE that remark


but in all seriousness - i'd run over an onld lady and a fat dog to get to someone willing to trade an M1A for a pile of gansta guns

[Heffay]

but in all seriousness - i'd run over an onld lady and a fat dog to get to someone willing to trade an M1A for a pile of gansta guns

Go on... which old lady, and how big of a pile are we talking about?

[Lunchbox]

Seller: WTT LNIB M1A Loaded w/ Walnut stock in 308. Great gun, but I want something else. Tell me what you got.

Potential trader #1: I have a crate full of Mosin Nagants, how many do you want?

Potential trader #2: I have a box full of Jennings and Hipoint pistols. Say 3 Jennings J-22's and 2 Hipoint .40's?


(I'm just trying to help out TH3180 get this back on track.)

Are Shippy and Strad both bidding on this rifle?

Hey now - we RESEMBLE that remark


but in all seriousness - i'd run over an onld lady and a fat dog to get to someone willing to trade an M1A for a pile of gansta guns

Why could I easily see you doing that?

[autobahn]

To a WTB Glock 17 request.

Me - I have a G17 my wife no longer shoots since getting her G26. I'll sell it for $375 ( i didn't offer this but, $350 would have been ok)

Him - $300 cash tonight. I can meet you in an hour.

Me - please don't insult me. BTW, cash is not an incentive, it is a requirement.

I'm not disagreeing with your actions or your take on the situation, but I view things in a different light. I view such things as a normal part of the buying & selling process. If someone says the price is $375 (doesn't say OBO or FIRM), he/she can probably expect to get lower offers. Three hundred really isn't that out of the ordinary in my opinion. I think I posted this earlier in the thread, but someone offered me "$200 cash money" on a rifle I posted for $350. On offers like that, I can simply say 'no thanks' or not respond. It does me no harm.

I guess I don't understand why people let themselves get insulted by what they perceive to be low offers. The potential buyer/tire-kicker is trying to get a good price and nothing more - it's the seller who is construing the offer as an insult and choosing to take it so. If it's just email or text then that's no big deal. The only time it's an insult is when the buyer makes a promises and takes up a considerable amount of your time. I've had people agree to buy, meet me at a location, tire-kick the gun to death, then either say "I'll pass" or give me a lowball offer. That irritates me as they've wasted my time & money, but if it's just email then I don't really care.

This. Totally. I do a lot of craigslisting. I get a lot of lowballs. I just say no thanks. It's not a big deal. I'll even do it myself. Some people just need cash and want to sell quickly and it's a win win for everyone. Better than a pawn shop. At least when I buy and resell things I mark up reasonably instead of to near-new retail prices. I visited a pawn shop recently once just for fun and I was amazed at how terrible the prices were on EVERYTHING. Like not even near reasonable where you could expect to haggle to a price you'd want to pay for something used.

When I get angry is when people imply they want to pay the price I have listed for something and then we meet to do the transaction, and THEN they want to deal. Like they are being sneaky and have me in some sort of corner where they think "he's already out here meeting me, of course he'll sell at a ridiculously low price". At that point I quietly pack up and just leave. I'd rather they make their offers up front and we get that out of the way.

But looking on this forum and on armslist in general, it seems like people here and there seem to think that their stuff is worth a lot more than it is. When you put something up used for near or higher than new price, what do you expect?

My strategy in selling online is if I can't sell it for a reasonable price that will make me and the buyer happy, I shouldn't sell it.

[White Horseradish]

I don't mind low offers, I can always laugh in the guy's face. It does annoy me when people get all upset when I do that.
For instance: I was selling an old van for $300. Guy calls me and offers $100. I tell him I can get more for scrapping it, so no. And he gets all huffy.

It also annoys me that some people don't understand that a deal is a mutually beneficial thing. Like a guy who offered me $10 for a $15 item and then wanted me to deliver it to his house, which is not on any of my regular routes.

[ijosef]

I don't mind low offers, I can always laugh in the guy's face. It does annoy me when people get all upset when I do that.
For instance: I was selling an old van for $300. Guy calls me and offers $100. I tell him I can get more for scrapping it, so no. And he gets all huffy.

I can certainly understand why someone gets upset if you laugh in their face. Would you like to have someone laugh in your face if you made what you thought was a fair offer? Remember, one man's lowball is another man's reasonable price. My Dad was always a proponent of the whole laugh-in-face thing while negotiating, but I always thought it was rather bush league. However, someone also has no reason for getting huffy when a seller refuses their offer. The dude that offered you $100 for a $300 item should've known it was a long shot and been okay with refusal. Most people who make offers like that are used to it, so if the person says no they just move on to the next one.

[XDM45]

I don't mind low offers, I can always laugh in the guy's face. It does annoy me when people get all upset when I do that.
For instance: I was selling an old van for $300. Guy calls me and offers $100. I tell him I can get more for scrapping it, so no. And he gets all huffy.

I can certainly understand why someone gets upset if you laugh in their face. Would you like to have someone laugh in your face if you made what you thought was a fair offer? Remember, one man's lowball is another man's reasonable price. My Dad was always a proponent of the whole laugh-in-face thing while negotiating, but I always thought it was rather bush league. However, someone also has no reason for getting huffy when a seller refuses their offer. The dude that offered you $100 for a $300 item should've known it was a long shot and been okay with refusal. Most people who make offers like that are used to it, so if the person says no they just move on to the next one.

That's why you just say "FIRM" when you post an ad. "I want $X Cash Firm." No negotiation. If I wanted to sell lower, I'd price it lower, that's all. When I buy, of course I negotiate a better price unless the person is like me and doesn't budge... they I either walk away or pay their price, that's all. Of course all of this relates to my last posting.... don't be desperate to buy or sell.

[MrVvrroomm]

http://www.armslist.com/posts/670066/mi ... o-buy-asap

LOL!

"Looking to buy a handgun as soon as possible for protection I live in a horrible neighborhood. My price range varies no higher than 200 let me know what you have! Thanks"

[Shipyard]

recently put up a pair of SKS rifles. add clearly states $350 each.

Responce #1:

take $474 for both?

no. not even a little. didn't even bother responding to this one.

Response 2:

would you take $200 for the better one?

no, but i would take $375... no response.

would you want to trade for a pheoenix arms 22 range kit LNIB? one side is scratched but shoots good

no. i also love how LNIB also includes scratches... havn't seen that one from the factory yet. i responded that i'd trade for a NIB wilson combat 1911 but only if it's delivered to me by a topless Linday Lohan

dude responded:

i'll call her up and see if she's free in between [graphic language of sexual act towards himself removed]

i appreciated that he had a simmilar sense of humor