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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby falgore on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:40 pm

goett047 wrote:A sharp shooter...where you going to get the money for that ammo. Last I checked Sabots are the opposite of cheap
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you practice with a lesser round once you get accurate you step it up, If you can get accurate with a lesser round its easier to do with sabot won't have to waste your money on a 3$ round through the entire training. I know they handle different.

Note the link to the other site, he was use to using rifles, when he switched and was doing sub 2in holes at 100yd. He been practicing longer range with a rifle before picking up a 12ga for first time.

point is you do not need to always use the most expensive round for practicing. yes will need to do a few round with the sabot after the initial practice is done, but its hell of a lot cheaper the step up method.

Buy in bulk makes a difference, shop around etc

Your forgetting I have skills on how to make what money I have count. by not wasting on trivial things like the 3-6$ coffee every day for example. Also skill knowing how to distinguish necessity from luxury. Most people of means does not know how to distinguish the difference. Example they think smart phones are a necessity. NO they are not. Will you die without one? no

Finding food is necessity Thus practicing to ensure you nail the food is a necessity. Hunting is not a sport or luxury to me It is in pursuit of necessity "FOOD" From the "3" group. water, food, shelter These are the terms you think at my level. You have to get damb creative too. If your not in pursuit of one of the 3 it just a luxury and waste of energy..

it is also state of mind. I can tell your not in the right state of mind for surviving on less, based on comments that I can't do it at my level of income.. Survival is about finding away or you die, simple as that. But if you do this," oh can't do this or that" or thinking "wishing had this or that" your good as dead.

Forget your creature comforts, sooner you do the better off you are, at my level.

99% of the time don't miss having a car , even in the winter. as example I let it go. But I still maintain ability to drive if it were to ever arise.
Made my own winter gear designed for riding bike. cheaper than buying gear that last.

If I could not do as you say I would have been dead by 8th grade. People who I tell my whole story too, are shocked, I am still alive and kicking. especially with the fact I been able to do it while up holding my moral and ethic compass alined true north.


PS when I said sniper I did not mean putting slug through same hole every time I meant that putting 5 rounds in a 4in hole at ranges farther than standard slug gun of 50-75yd.
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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby Stradawhovious on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:46 pm

Boy..... The **** is getting deep in here, isn't it?

You know what..... I don't have any money, but I'm going to go buy a formula one car. It won't take me long to win the indy 500. I know this because I have 20 years of driving experience, and think I'm pretty good at it. That, and I have access to roads, so I can teach myself. I should be a world class driver in about a month.

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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby goett047 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:52 pm

If you have a rifle to practice with, take the deer with that.
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Re: Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby goett047 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:52 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:Boy..... The **** is getting deep in here, isn't it?

You know what..... I don't have any money, but I'm going to go buy a formula one car. It won't take me long to win the indy 500. I know this because I have 20 years of driving experience, and think I'm pretty good at it. That, and I have access to roads, so I can teach myself. I should be a world class driver in about a month.

Ignorance is bliss.

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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby Squib Joe on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:30 pm

falgore wrote:We aren't doing this for fun, It should never be fun, taking a life, even if its a deer.


I must be doing it wrong. I have fun hunting :cry:
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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby ttousi on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:59 pm

You never seen my uncle shoot. his first shot is the kill the follow-on is to knock it off its feet so we don't have to chase a running dead dear.


Correct I have never seen your uncle shoot nor have I seen a "running dead dear"

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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby DitchDR on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:00 pm

Hold on a second! Your telling me that a firearms manufacture is telling you that their shotgun is the most accurate gun on the market today using their ammo. Brilliant! That sounds like every other firearms manufacture I can think of.

Sorry buddy, but I have fun hunting. I dont know you or your situation, but if you need venison to survive hunting for it is more costly than buying from a farmer and having it processed. You would be better off calling your Sheriffs office and getting on the roadkill list. At least all you have to do then is dress it and drag it home. No cost to you.
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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby Lunchbox on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:06 pm

Squib Joe wrote:
falgore wrote:We aren't doing this for fun, It should never be fun, taking a life, even if its a deer.


I must be doing it wrong. I have fun hunting :cry:


You're not the only one. Every time I've gone back in with game I've never thought I was doin it wrong.
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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby ttousi on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:10 pm

At least all you have to do then is dress it and drag bike it home. No cost to you.


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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby breadstain on Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:50 am

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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby reconjack08 on Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:56 am

falgore wrote:
goett047 wrote:A sharp shooter...where you going to get the money for that ammo. Last I checked Sabots are the opposite of cheap
it is also state of mind. I can tell your not in the right state of mind for surviving on less, based on comments that I can't do it at my level of income.. Survival is about finding away or you die, simple as that. But if you do this," oh can't do this or that" or thinking "wishing had this or that" your good as dead.

Failgore, I think you misspelled your name, you are saddly misguided in everything and I lose intelligence every single one of your post I read but I can't turn away from the train wreck. The quote was about what appears to be what your doing in this post and others.
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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby SRM_Arms on Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:42 am

Hi Falgore,

Thank you for starting a discussion about our 1216.

To answer your questions:

Question is how solid of a performer is it?
It's a very solid performer. With the first couple hundred we manufactured, we had some feeding issues, but after recognizing the issue and fluting the chamber, those have been resolved.

Heavy use durability and accuracy wise?
I put a couple hundred rounds through it almost weekly. Seems like I'm taking different friends out every weekend because they love it. It's definitely an attention getter! I have no problems with accuracy either.

I also noticed a couple comments about the price...let me explain further:

First of all, this is a revolutionary shotgun and there is nothing else like it. Many have tried, but never got there. This gun is completely ambidextrous, meaning you can switch all the controls (bolt release, safety, charging handle, etc) from right to left. It also breaks open like an AR for easy cleaning/field stripping. You can simply remove the lethal bolt and drop in our less-than-lethal bolt, making this one mean bean bag launcher. LE/Military LOVE this feature. Not only that, but this gun is lightweight (just over 7lbs) and the highest capacity shotgun out of the box. It doesn't take long to get use to rotating the magazine, and once you get the hang of it, I have to admit...it's a blast seeing how fast I can shoot off 16 rounds. If I'm at the range, people are always coming up to check it out. Once you are able to get your hands on one, or better yet shoot it...you'll see that it's worth every penny.

Here's a recent quote from a buyer:

"As a retired US Marine that specialized in weapons and explosives, I know how a high capacity weapon should function. The SRM 1216 is incredibly constructed, the action is smooth and overall it's a solid piece of equipment worth every penny. So far, I've shot over 100 rounds and had no hang-ups. The magazine was very easy to load, and one of the few high capacity magazines that actually works like it’s suppose to. I'm currently an R&D Engineer and can appreciate when a piece of equipment is well engineered. "
-Robert Anderson, Pennsylvania

We are also in several Gun publications with great reviews from top industry writers.

Let me know if you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help! If you want to keep up on the latest, make sure to like our Facebook page.

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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:51 am

SRM_Arms wrote:Hi Falgore,

Thank you for starting a discussion about our 1216.




So you recommend using this shotgun for deer hunting, and taking shots at upwards of 250 yards like the OP is suggesting?

Seems to me this would make a pretty poor hunting shotgun, and would be better suited to more "social" applications.
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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby SRM_Arms on Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:04 pm

250 yards is of course a bit much for any shotgun. I've never shot a target at that distance (even with slugs) with a shotgun.

So no, I wouldn't consider this a hunting shotgun...but I do know of several people who use it for hog hunting down in Texas :)

It's not officially announced yet, but we have developed our "sporting" edition shotgun for hunting. Our 1216 is aimed more for personal defense.

Thanks for the comments.
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Re: worth it? SRM Model 1216 semi-auto 12 gauge

Postby falgore on Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:01 pm

goett047 wrote:If you have a rifle to practice with, take the deer with that.


NOT if your in 12ga country only
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