Can The public carry Tasers?

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Re: Can The public carry Tasers?

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:23 pm

falgore wrote:
many civilians would be more willing to use it out of misguided assumptions that if they did tase a person wrongfully just to be on the safe side, that there would be no consequences of their actions. So since they have it just tase for hell of it and ask questions if their targets deserved it later.


Where do you get off making statements like this?

With an arguement like this, why don't we just ban all guns, cars, and sharp pointy objects?
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Re: Can The public carry Tasers?

Postby ktech on Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:53 pm

falgore wrote:anyone have chart comparison between a ER defibrillator and a taser? I am curious to see how close they come, if at all, when it comes to changing the rhythm of the heart.

Or the current level used by electro-shock treatment for the brain.

People tend to forget the body is a bio "electrical" system. excessive voltage/ amperage is always bad, used in a non medical purpose.

PS I get paranoid as hell, when I see an officer with one, anywhere near me.

I am considering going before city council, to get them removed or have policy of dire consequences, if they can't prove it wasn't to stop an imminent threat to life.



A TASER is in no way, shape or form designed to or likely to impact heart rhythms. High voltage (like that in a TASER) is not what causes arrythmia - that is amperage. There is a major difference between the two!

Without getting too technical, a defibrillator operates on a whole different level as compared with a TASER - TASER causes NMI - neuromuscular incapacitation (yes the heart is a muscle, and that's why there is a chance, though a small one, of a TASER impacting a heart rhythm). An AED (automatic external defibrillator) is specifically designed to affect the heart - everything from the rate at which it pulses to the placement of the electrodes is designed to provide the maximum possible effect on the heart.
Having used an AED myself on a patient, I can tell you that it has relatively little muscular effect when compared with a TASER - the patient's toso does flex, but if you were to use a TASER on the patient with the probes in the same location, you would get a much larger area effect through the muscles.

That's why you don't see cops TASERing someone who's gone in to cardiac arrest. :?

I do not have direct experience with electroshock treatment, but it also functions on a completely different scale than that of a TASER.

Also for clarification, a TASER is not a "stun gun" or an "air taser" or things like that - those are all different technologies.

Please, for goodness sake - do yourself and everyone else a favor when discussing a topic and educate yourself before making wild generalizations and assertions - these are exact same types of arguments anti-gunners uses against the 2nd Amendment, and you would do yourself and us all well to avoid using this sort of discussion tactic.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. :)

ETA: I don't disagree that police use TASERs too freely; but the "cops are trained so they can/should have better things" argument really rubs me the wrong way.
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Re: Can The public carry Tasers?

Postby tman on Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:17 pm

My father-in-law took a shock from a Taser in training at about age 67 - WITH his pacemaker installed.
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Re: Can The public carry Tasers?

Postby rtk on Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:56 am

falgore wrote:
rtk wrote::?


Since this is loaded comment, I am going to assume it was related to my post?

If so, how were you confused, so I can clarify.



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