Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun and Ammo Registration

[solidsnake556]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... gistration


Good news -- it has become known that hidden deep within the massive 2800-page bill called Obamacare there is a Senate Amendment protecting the right to keep and bear arms.

It seems that in their haste to cram socialized medicine down the throats of the American people, then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Barack Obama overlooked Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.

According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot collect "any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition."

CNN is calling it "a gift to the nation's powerful gun lobby."

And according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), that's exactly right. He says he added the provision in order to keep the NRA from getting involved in the legislative fight over Obamacare, which was so ubiquitous in 2010.

[xd ED]

What happens when they make the lawful... Unlawful?

[XDM45]

What happens when they make the lawful... Unlawful?

The law does not make things allowable, it makes things illegal.

Think about it. As long as there ISN'T a law against it, you can do it.

I am glad to see this in ObamaCare, but it was probably put in there months ago as more of a protection for the bill than for guns or 2A rights. Isn't 2A enough? I mean really.... it's in one of THE foundational documents for the establishment of this country's laws and rights.

[xd ED]

The op makes mention of lawfully owned guns and ammo. Said lawfully owned guns and ammo could become unlawful, was my point.

[LastManArms]

Cool, but that whole health care pile of paper is still unconstitutional. But at least that amendment is in there since it doesn't seem to matter if it's constitutional or not.

[LastManArms]

The op makes mention of lawfully owned guns and ammo. Said lawfully owned guns and ammo could become unlawful, was my point.

I agree, if an exhaustive list of specific firearms are determined to be unlawful, then it won't help.

Upgrading my NRA membership tonight...

[driztan]

The op makes mention of lawfully owned guns and ammo. Said lawfully owned guns and ammo could become unlawful, was my point.

In the United States, the Congress is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law

But this administration is capable of anything.

[driztan]

But here I am talking about laws when the current administration is considering treason as an option.

[Chunkychuck]

it took a little while to find it. Here is the wording. As I would read it, it only prohibits "health and wellness programs" from collecting data. To me that would mean, the feds can't use Obama care to institute any gun reforms. I see no restrictions on the Federal Government if it chose to do it some other way, despite the supposed quote from Harry Reid. LInk if you want to read it, page 4. http://www.healthcare.gov/law/resources ... uality.pdf I edited the line numbers out below to make it easier to read.

‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—
A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require
the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to
authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.

[Josh189]

This was put in place so health insurance premiums couldn't be hiked unjustly just because you owned a firearm and/or ammunition. It would be seen as a health risk like smoking. However as long as that bill stands that clause is valid. The 2A shall not be infringed. Some people in washington like lawyers (Obama) seem to think up different interpretations of words to suit their agenda's needs. Alex Jones said it best. We will rise up before they take our guns.

[westhope]

The way I read that clause, it would only apply to the Department of Health and Human Services, not other branches of the Federal government collecting firearm information.

Your opinion may vary.