Private Sale

[bpacman]

If you want to be sure, go through an FFL to CYA.

Also get copies of the DL and the PTC.

Please consider this advice is from a person who has purchased 2 pistols in the last year and sold...none. Just Sayin.

Bp

[MrVvrroomm]

Please consider this advice is from a person who has purchased 2 pistols in the last year and sold...none. Just Sayin.

Bp

[JohnGageMN]

Am I the only one who won't release all that personal info- DL#, address, birthday, etc- to a stranger?

No, you're not the only one. With Identity Theft rampant in this country, only a fool would allow a
stranger to keep photocopies of his/her drivers license number, or any other personal number.

THIS.

I cannot emphasize it enough.

[JohnGageMN]

If you want to be sure, go through an FFL to CYA.

Also get copies of the DL and the PTC.

Please consider this advice is from a person who has purchased 2 pistols in the last year and sold...none. Just Sayin.

Bp

<facepalm> Can we add a permanent tag to his sig line that tells noobs in bold letters not to listen to a thing he says? Some poor SOB might see his post count and think he actually knows the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground.

[Shawski]

If you want to be sure, go through an FFL to CYA.

Also get copies of the DL and the PTC.

Please consider this advice is from a person who has purchased 2 pistols in the last year and sold...none. Just Sayin.

Bp

<facepalm> Can we add a permanent tag to his sig line that tells noobs in bold letters not to listen to a thing he says? Some poor SOB might see his post count and think he actually knows the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground.

Man, my dog freaked out when I started laughing at this! Thanks

[JohnGageMN]

Man, my dog freaked out when I started laughing at this! Thanks

Anytime!

"Always be mindful to entertain strangers. It's a great way to make new friends." - Me

[yuppiejr]

On the flip side, as a buyer I like to know who I'm purchasing a gun from and have some form of positive ID involved in a deal.

I believe in the "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" policy... if a buyer isn't willing to ID themselves I consider it a red flag (is it stolen, for example.. or was the gun used in a crime and they want to be rid of it, etc..)... I don't have a problem sharing my DL/permit info on either side of a transaction and expect the same in return which is outlined in my conditions of a trade if a firearm is involved. I won't sell without seeing a DL/P2P-C as it is a reasonable assurance for me (on moral and practical-legal grounds) that the buyer is in fact eligible to own a firearm. This is my policy/best practice - to each their own unless you want to make a trade, in which case it's my way or the highway.

Your personal information is pretty much available to any third grader with an internet connection... if you are worried about identity theft sign up for a protection service (seriously, LifeLock is cheap insurance). It's likely that using a credit card to buy anything online or file your taxes is a greater risk for identity theft than sharing your DL or permit info with a private party gun sale.

[xd ED]

Look at buyer's driver's license. Look at buyer's permit to purchase or permit to carry. Take cash. Hand over gun.

THIS^
or
take it to an FFL.

[xd ED]

If you want to be sure, go through an FFL to CYA.

Also get copies of the DL and the PTC.

Please consider this advice is from a person who has purchased 2 pistols in the last year and sold...none. Just Sayin.

Bp

<facepalm> Can we add a permanent tag to his sig line that tells noobs in bold letters not to listen to a thing he says? Some poor SOB might see his post count and think he actually knows the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground.

[brad3579]

On the flip side, as a buyer I like to know who I'm purchasing a gun from and have some form of positive ID involved in a deal.

I believe in the "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" policy... if a buyer isn't willing to ID themselves I consider it a red flag (is it stolen, for example.. or was the gun used in a crime and they want to be rid of it, etc..)... I don't have a problem sharing my DL/permit info on either side of a transaction and expect the same in return which is outlined in my conditions of a trade if a firearm is involved. I won't sell without seeing a DL/P2P-C as it is a reasonable assurance for me (on moral and practical-legal grounds) that the buyer is in fact eligible to own a firearm. This is my policy/best practice - to each their own unless you want to make a trade, in which case it's my way or the highway.

Your personal information is pretty much available to any third grader with an internet connection... if you are worried about identity theft sign up for a protection service (seriously, LifeLock is cheap insurance). It's likely that using a credit card to buy anything online or file your taxes is a greater risk for identity theft than sharing your DL or permit info with a private party gun sale.

Thank you, was starting to think that I was the only one that thought this way

[Erud]

Here's my take on this.

It is perfectly legal for 2 free and law-abiding citizens of this state to sell or trade firearms amongst each other. It is not required to do a transfer through a FFL, do a background check, or get permission from the government to do so. I am of the opinion that there are plenty of perfectly legitimate reasons for a non-criminal to want to own firearms that are not "on the books", as they say, and if you can't think of any, you probably aren't much of a history buff.

We all complain about the possibility of stricter gun-control legislation, particularly registration. Why do so many of us voluntarily keep records of transactions just in case a government official shows up to ask what we did with our own property? If this situation ever arises about a firearm I owned in the past, I'll just tell the truth; I sold it to a MN resident who showed me their valid MN driver's license and MN carry permit. I had no reason to believe they had any unlawful intentions for the firearm. I did not keep a record of the transaction for the government because I am not required by law to do so. If it needs to go beyond that, any further questions can be directed to my lawyer.

[xd ED]

On the flip side, as a buyer I like to know who I'm purchasing a gun from and have some form of positive ID involved in a deal.

I believe in the "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" policy... if a buyer isn't willing to ID themselves I consider it a red flag (is it stolen, for example.. or was the gun used in a crime and they want to be rid of it, etc..)... I don't have a problem sharing my DL/permit info on either side of a transaction and expect the same in return which is outlined in my conditions of a trade if a firearm is involved. I won't sell without seeing a DL/P2P-C as it is a reasonable assurance for me (on moral and practical-legal grounds) that the buyer is in fact eligible to own a firearm. This is my policy/best practice - to each their own unless you want to make a trade, in which case it's my way or the highway.

Your personal information is pretty much available to any third grader with an internet connection... if you are worried about identity theft sign up for a protection service (seriously, LifeLock is cheap insurance). It's likely that using a credit card to buy anything online or file your taxes is a greater risk for identity theft than sharing your DL or permit info with a private party gun sale.

I agree. Showing someone my DL/ PTC is a bit like showing someone my VISA card. But I wouldn't give a photo copy of either to a stranger.

[brad3579]

Here's my take on this.

It is perfectly legal for 2 free and law-abiding citizens of this state to sell or trade firearms amongst each other. It is not required to do a transfer through a FFL, do a background check, or get permission from the government to do so. I am of the opinion that there are plenty of perfectly legitimate reasons for a non-criminal to want to own firearms that are not "on the books", as they say, and if you can't think of any, you probably aren't much of a history buff.

We all complain about the possibility of stricter gun-control legislation, particularly registration. Why do so many of us voluntarily keep records of transactions just in case a government official shows up to ask what we did with our own property? If this situation ever arises about a firearm I owned in the past, I'll just tell the truth; I sold it to a MN resident who showed me their valid MN driver's license and MN carry permit. I had no reason to believe they had any unlawful intentions for the firearm. I did not keep a record of the transaction for the government because I am not required by law to do so. If it needs to go beyond that, any further questions can be directed to my lawyer.

About $20k later you might wish you got a little more info

[xd ED]

OK. Time to hear about the guy who made an intelligent, good faith sale effort, and ended up with $20k in legal bills.

[Erud]

I'd also like to hear that story.