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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby XDM45 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:26 am

350 rounds of .45ACP through the XDm, 100 rounds through the XDs, 400 rounds though the .22LR all at BPR today. I plan on picking up some more .45ACP when prices are reasonable again, but otherwise I may buy a box or two at inflated prices just to keep the guns fresh and lead going through them; but no way amd I going to fire a ton like I did last year in .45ACP.

.22LR on the other hand is another matter. I have plenty and this current situation doesn't affect me at all. Every time I go I shoot 400-600 rounds or so, and that's not bad. I probably won't go to the range again until April, go once or twice, and the same for the rest of the Summer and Fall. I don't shoot a ton in the Spring and Winter mainly due to the weather. I prefer to shoot outdoors and Spring tends to be rainy and unpredictable, outdoors in Winter is too cold, so I go to BPR maybe 2-3 times during the Winter months from November through March/April.

I haven't quit shooting, but I've cut back for sure, especially on .45ACP. I can wait it out until prices go back down to pre-panic levels as they always do.
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby Sammichman on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:42 am

I like to shoot outdoors,,and like Sam says this winter is Crap,,I,ve acquired 4 New Firearms over the course of the winter and also the gear to load them so when it warms up I,ll be back at it with a Vengience
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby XDM45 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:57 am

Sammichman wrote:I like to shoot outdoors,,and like Sam says this winter is Crap,,I,ve acquired 4 New Firearms over the course of the winter and also the gear to load them so when it warms up I,ll be back at it with a Vengience


AMEN!! Last year it was 70 degrees on my birthday in March.
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby Eric Marleau on Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:48 pm

I saw this coming last summer. I have enough reloading componets and .22s to last for a long, long time.

I'm planning to offer my shooters enough .22 ammo to keep them shooting until things get back to normal.


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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby Ironbear on Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:24 pm

I was in a Dick's yesterday. Pretty sad when you can remember what was available....

Handgun
.38 special

Rifle
.22-250 Rem (a bunch)
.243 Win (a bunch)
7mm Rem Mag (a bunch)
.30-06 (a bunch)
.280 Rem (a little)
.45-70 Gov(a little)

Yep. That's it. Mildly interesting the assortment that is left....
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby Dakotared on Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:35 pm

My shooting over the winter has went way down. But as soon as it warms up a bit I will be blowing through the ammo. I reload and should have plenty of supplies for about 2 years. So yes I quit shooting bust just because I only shoot outdoors and this winter has been to cold to shoot much.
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby mecra on Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:16 am

I quit for the time being. The only shooting I'll do in the near future is re-zeroing my guns due to new sights.
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby XDM45 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:19 am

Eric Marleau wrote:I saw this coming last summer. I have enough reloading componets and .22s to last for a long, long time.

I'm planning to offer my shooters enough .22 ammo to keep them shooting until things get back to normal.

Eric


Same here on the .22LR stockpile :)
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby damian_mb on Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:20 am

I've stopped shooting....

I am down to a good enough amount to where I can carry if I need to be on the move, plus some more for defense. I did a practice run of 500 rnds of .45, 400 rnds of .40, and 500 rnds of .223 and man it's freaking heavy!!! This is without my firearms.

I want to know how those folks would do with 15K rounds of ammo?? :D :D :D Not talking about loading up a car!
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby OldmanFCSA on Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:32 am

damian_mb wrote:I've stopped shooting....

I am down to a good enough amount to where I can carry if I need to be on the move, plus some more for defense. I did a practice run of 500 rnds of .45, 400 rnds of .40, and 500 rnds of .223 and man it's freaking heavy!!! This is without my firearms.

I want to know how those folks would do with 15K rounds of ammo?? :D :D :D Not talking about loading up a car!


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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby JustPlainT on Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:46 am

I've virtually stopped shooting.

Last time I was at Bill's the only things I shot were revolvers and a shotgun. I can replace 12 gauge fairly cheaply even still at FF, and the revolvers prevent me from losing any of that brass. But now is the realization that I don't have enough bullets to maintain that, and most of my supply is around 9mm. Which I don't want to lose the brass for.

So I may not do much more for a while.
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby yuppiejr on Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:00 am

One thing to consider... if you are unable to buy ammo because your entire collection is made up of guns chambered in "popular" calibers, perhaps it's time to consider diversification of the collection and shooting styles?

I'm not a lever-gun guy but ammo and rifles in 30/30 are widely available (.357 and 44 magnum carbines are less common but another good bet), as bolt action rifles go guns and ammo in 30-06, .270, 7mm-08, .243, etc.. are all widely available as well.

Consider your STYLE of shooting as well... I realize people are really into CQB hard and fast shooting but slowing it down and focusing on that "one shot, one hit" precision, breathing/trigger control drills, etc.... can still be productive and burn a lot less ammo. Dry firing practice with a laser can be great for rifle and pistol shooters without burning through ammo and even at $50 a brick, .22 LR remains the cheapest way to get trigger time as long as you are not spraying and praying.

If you're otherwise stuck, now would be a good time to invest money you might otherwise spend on ammo doing some training - Appleseed is a cheap weekend if you haven't done it already (they are adapting the program a bit to make it less ammo intensive).. The Post 435 Service rifle Clinic is coming up in June and doesn't require a ton of ammo. Maybe take a gunsmithing/service course or see if there are any pistol/carbine type courses that can be run with Airsoft gear?

Adapt and overcome... If you are not shooting because you can't/won't get ammo and choose not to adopt it's nobody's fault but your own. Otherwise consider investing some time and money into local and national gun rights advocacy groups, etc..
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby XDM45 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:43 am

yuppiejr wrote:One thing to consider... if you are unable to buy ammo because your entire collection is made up of guns chambered in "popular" calibers, perhaps it's time to consider diversification of the collection and shooting styles?

I'm not a lever-gun guy but ammo and rifles in 30/30 are widely available (.357 and 44 magnum carbines are less common but another good bet), as bolt action rifles go guns and ammo in 30-06, .270, 7mm-08, .243, etc.. are all widely available as well.

Consider your STYLE of shooting as well... I realize people are really into CQB hard and fast shooting but slowing it down and focusing on that "one shot, one hit" precision, breathing/trigger control drills, etc.... can still be productive and burn a lot less ammo. Dry firing practice with a laser can be great for rifle and pistol shooters without burning through ammo and even at $50 a brick, .22 LR remains the cheapest way to get trigger time as long as you are not spraying and praying.

If you're otherwise stuck, now would be a good time to invest money you might otherwise spend on ammo doing some training - Appleseed is a cheap weekend if you haven't done it already (they are adapting the program a bit to make it less ammo intensive).. The Post 435 Service rifle Clinic is coming up in June and doesn't require a ton of ammo. Maybe take a gunsmithing/service course or see if there are any pistol/carbine type courses that can be run with Airsoft gear?

Adapt and overcome... If you are not shooting because you can't/won't get ammo and choose not to adopt it's nobody's fault but your own. Otherwise consider investing some time and money into local and national gun rights advocacy groups, etc..


Good advice.

I shoot for precision/accuracy when I live fire, doing a mixture of one shot at a time and rapid fire consecutive shots. I'm pretty good with my Ruger and XDm, but I suck at the XDs, but I only shot it for the first time this last weekend. Lots of work to do there to get as good at it as I am with the others. So no carrying the XDs for me for long awhile. I'll have to wait for .45ACP prices to fall before I slam 1,000+ rounds though it.

Like I was recently told, all that running around of CQC is fun, but if you can't hit the target, it's pointless. I think that's key. Get good at holster work, maintaining the gun, the basic fundamentals of shooting and firearm care, get good at hitting the target, get the muscle memory down, make it second nature, and then later on go ahead and add in stress, adrenaline, situations and scenarios to try and throw your muscle memory off. You can also do all of the aforementioned with a mixture of live fire, airsoft, dry fire, or blue gun practice, so there's many options. Couple that with buying ammo when and where you can for decent prices, and you'll be set. Just buy more than you shoot. At a minimum, I buy 2 for ever 1 I shoot, but ideally, I'd like 4:1, and average is 3:1 for me.

I also need to do more dry fire practice and holster work than I do since I've been focusing on live fire for awhile now. Dry fire is ideal training during the Winter months, but it should be done year round. Of course I could practice 100 hours a week and still feel it's not enough. While I'd love to do situational/scenario training right now, I think there's a ton more work that I need to do before I get to that. Maybe in a few years I'll gt to the situational/scenario training. Once you master the basics, the other stuff will come much easier. Dry fire practice and holster work are my weak spots right now. Precision of your aim, targeting, shooting, technique, etc, can and will improve over time. I'm not worried about if I can hit the target with the Ruger / XDm, so there I need to improve grouping, precision and accuracy in that regard. (XDs is another story altogether.) As I add more guns, that whole process will need to be repeated since every gun and is unique.

Good advice on the off-calibers and airsoft. I'd do the airsoft if I had the setup for it, but I don't. My house just isn't setup for that really since I have a nice basement with stuff in it. I guess I could use the garage, but that'd be it, but as noted above, I have other ways to and things to train on before looking at more gear (airsoft). I could see airsoft being useful in that way, but I see it as being even more useful in situational/scenario training where you're shooting at (and getting shot at by) other people. The more realistic the training is, the better.

As for live fire, I'mk cutting back on the .45ACP, doing more .22LR and not going to the range as often. I've limited my calibers right now to .22LR and .45ACP, but eventually I'll have a few more calibers like .357, .223 (for an AR-15) and a shotgun. I really prefer to have multiple firearms for one caliber because having 1 gun per caliber is expensive, as is having multiple calibers, and especially if you want to stockpile ammo for it too. You can easily spend a small fortune on firearms, but is that wise? I want the most bang for my buck (and my gun(s).
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby Synergy on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:20 pm

Now that I'm reloading I really like shooting revolvers more so I don't have to loose or chase brass plus I take more time with a revolver so I don't burn through ammo like I tend to do with my 9mm. I also like the fact I can actually keep track of my brass and not have to sort out all the range brass.

You know, its a funny thing, I bought my 9mm because everyone said the ammo is cheap. I found I go through WAY more ammo in my 9mm than anything else because its so easy to rip off 17 rounds at a time compared to 7 in my .45 and 6 in my .44. The 9mm ends up costing me more overall and I do get to take more shots but its just so easy to burn through a mag rather than take my time.

I also don't go to Bills anymore for the same reason others here have posted. I don't like loosing THAT much brass. I'm still relatively new but since I've started shooting one thing I've noticed is more and more people are farming as much brass as they can. It make me wonder how much business Bills looses because people don't like loosing brass? If I go to Inrange in Monticello I can pretty much get all my brass back, not all but most.

I see more and more guys reloading, did this happen the last time the SHTF or is it a new trend? Makes me wonder.
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Re: Who has quit shooting?

Postby XDM45 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:47 pm

Synergy wrote:Now that I'm reloading I really like shooting revolvers more so I don't have to loose or chase brass plus I take more time with a revolver so I don't burn through ammo like I tend to do with my 9mm. I also like the fact I can actually keep track of my brass and not have to sort out all the range brass.

You know, its a funny thing, I bought my 9mm because everyone said the ammo is cheap. I found I go through WAY more ammo in my 9mm than anything else because its so easy to rip off 17 rounds at a time compared to 7 in my .45 and 6 in my .44. The 9mm ends up costing me more overall and I do get to take more shots but its just so easy to burn through a mag rather than take my time.

I also don't go to Bills anymore for the same reason others here have posted. I don't like loosing THAT much brass. I'm still relatively new but since I've started shooting one thing I've noticed is more and more people are farming as much brass as they can. It make me wonder how much business Bills looses because people don't like loosing brass? If I go to Inrange in Monticello I can pretty much get all my brass back, not all but most.

I see more and more guys reloading, did this happen the last time the SHTF or is it a new trend? Makes me wonder.


I got to an outdoor spot and when I shoot my .45ACP, I collect it. I'm going to get a tarp or big blanket to make that even easier for me this year. I know what you mean about getting your brass back. That's one reason why I get to BPR when they open and get the slot to the furthers most right. My brass hits the wall and then I can recover more of it. I put 450 rounds through my guns this past weekend and that's probably the most .45ACP I'll shoot all Summer. If people want to shoot them, cool, bring your own ammo and if they don't want the brass, I'll keep it. I collect it and sell it since I don't reload. That's the thing, ALL of my brass is from new ammo, one time use, so whoever buys it from me knows that they aren't getting casings that have multiple reloads through them. Normally I sell 500 casings for $40.00, but with how prices are now, I may have to adjust that a bit. OldmanFSCA and Evad have first rights to my brass, so when I get quantities, they get a jingle first.

I'm going to do a lot of .22LR this year and dry fire practice with the .45s I own. Hopefully .45ACP will go down to the .30 .35 a round (or even the better .25 a round) price I was paying before for new ammo. It's still not cheap, but the stuff I bought back in Jan 2013 at .45 a round is the most I've ever paid. I've seen it go for .55 - .80 a round, and this is all jacketed ball target ammo, not JHP that I'm talking about.
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