Has everyone downloaded their gun today?

[Username000]

I don't really care too much about the making of "zip guns" with it. I'm more excited about producing lower receivers.

Yep.
And how about holsters?
Fast-access pop-out hideouts, to fasten beneath your kitchen table, for when Russian mobsters invade and knock on your back? (I've never quite figured out how the hero always seemed to know, in advance, where he'd land, let alone that that was what the Russian mobsters were going to do, but it's the movies, so it has to be real...)

Have a little schizophrenic break there bud? LOL

[BemidjiDweller]

I've never quite figured out how the hero always seemed to know, in advance, where he'd land, let alone that that was what the Russian mobsters were going to do, but it's the movies, so it has to be real...)

Thats easy, the "hero" has a pistol/shotgun/RPG under/in every chair, desk, counter, cabinet, fridge, oven and ceiling fan. It's common practice among the highly trained Tactical Gecko Unit.

[AFTERMATH]

I've never quite figured out how the hero always seemed to know, in advance, where he'd land, let alone that that was what the Russian mobsters were going to do, but it's the movies, so it has to be real...)

Thats easy, the "hero" has a pistol/shotgun/RPG under/in every chair, desk, counter, cabinet, fridge, oven and ceiling fan. It's common practice among the highly trained Tactical Gecko Unit.

If I was worried about the KGB - I'd sure as heck have a weapon in every crevice.
Yes, go ahead and read that one any way you'd like.

[Collector1337420]

The firing pin is still metal.

The ammo is obviously still metal.

Hardly, "undetectable" as they claim.

If you read the article, it explains why the firing pin is metal. Along with another cosmetic piece, made of metal for a very specific purpose.

Heck, we even talk about that in this thread! On THIS VERY PAGE!

That's the point. All over the news, Fox, MSNBC, et. al., are all claiming it's undetectable.

[Username000]

The firing pin is still metal.

The ammo is obviously still metal.

Hardly, "undetectable" as they claim.

If you read the article, it explains why the firing pin is metal. Along with another cosmetic piece, made of metal for a very specific purpose.

Heck, we even talk about that in this thread! On THIS VERY PAGE!

That's the point. All over the news, Fox, MSNBC, et. al., are all claiming it's undetectable.

Well that's their job, to misinform.

[jdege]

Well that's their job, to misinform.

The function of government is to provide you with service; the function of the media is to supply the Vaseline - L. Neil Smith

[Heffay]

That's the point. All over the news, Fox, MSNBC, et. al., are all claiming it's undetectable.

Well that's their job, to misinform.

It is undetectable, unless you take very specific and unnecessary steps to make it detectable.

[JustPlainT]

Would a plastic firing pin work in this design? I don't believe the plans include a firing pin because of the use of a nail.

[Nalez]

I can find lots of blueprints to many common firearms on the Internet (heck, http://www.firearmblueprints.net/) How is that any different than what these folks are providing?

[scarletvw]

I can find lots of blueprints to many common firearms on the Internet (heck, http://www.firearmblueprints.net/) How is that any different than what these folks are providing?

Because this is now a proven design to work with almost all materials being plastic. Those other blueprints aren't going to work if you make them out of all plastic.

[plink]

With how new the technology still is it'll be interesting to see where it's at in 5-10 years. They'll clamp down on all this somehow, just for the fact that you won't need to buy much made of any printable material anymore. Salad bowl? Print. Toys for the kids? Print. The retail market in general could get shifted pretty fast.

As for where it's at now. An AR you made in your easy-bake oven that breaks in half after five rounds is basically an episode of 'Pimp My Zipgun'.

[Nalez]

I can find lots of blueprints to many common firearms on the Internet (heck, http://www.firearmblueprints.net/) How is that any different than what these folks are providing?

Because this is now a proven design to work with almost all materials being plastic. Those other blueprints aren't going to work if you make them out of all plastic.

_almost_ all the materials being plastic; as the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988 already disallows all the materials from being plastic. So is it simply that the manufacturing process is more accessible? It seems as folks are trying to create an issue where there is not one. This has been possible with CNC machines for years.

[scarletvw]

I can find lots of blueprints to many common firearms on the Internet (heck, http://www.firearmblueprints.net/) How is that any different than what these folks are providing?

Because this is now a proven design to work with almost all materials being plastic. Those other blueprints aren't going to work if you make them out of all plastic.

_almost_ all the materials being plastic; as the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988 already disallows all the materials from being plastic. So is it simply that the manufacturing process is more accessible? It seems as folks are trying to create an issue where there is not one. This has been possible with CNC machines for years.

It seems it’s all about accessibility and concealability. Whereas on a CNC machine you can make one hell of a nice project out of metal or derlin I suppose, the 3D printers allow cheap, concealable, virtually undetectable (if made outside of the law) weapons that could be used for crimes and you could essentially melt the evidence or use them to bypass standard means of detection.

I think it may be a huge issue temporarily and then maybe die off until one is used in a crime, then we'll be looking at the whole thing getting blown out of proportion again.

[Evad]

That's the point. All over the news, Fox, MSNBC, et. al., are all claiming it's undetectable.

Ever held a Glock? They used to say they could pass right through a metal detector on the news, and on Die Hard

[Heffay]

I think it may be a huge issue temporarily and then maybe die off until one is used in a crime, then we'll be looking at the whole thing getting blown out of proportion again.

It may end up being a huge issue. The question is "how many crimes are prevented by having metal detectors, which makes bringing a gun not worth the risk"?

And of course, that depends on the crime itself and the level of motivation of the criminal. And if there are alternative ways to detect these guns.

This really does have a good chance of impacting a *lot* of things.