MN PTC does this just cover pistols?

[rugrunner]

I have had my PTC since 2010 and carry daily. I have had people tel me that If I have a PTC I can carry all sorts of things.

LArge folding knives, fixed blade knives, samurai swords, rocket launchers...etc

Never gave it much thought as my Ex got the rocket launcher in the divorce. Anyway, I just picked up a sub 2000 and thought about keeping it in my truck. I looked up the law as best I could and it say I can have a rifle in my vehicle in a container made to carry a gun (or words to that effect)

My question is since I carry a Glock that uses the same magazines would I have a problem with the sub 2000 behind the seat and mags for my glock 27 with me in the front seat/console?

Thanks.

[wasfuzz]

Let me be the first to ask "Who was your instructor ?"

OK the answer is NO you are only allowed to carry a handgun with your MN PTC !
Edit to finish - to quick on the send button.
If You carried a unloaded rifle in a proper case, you would be legal. Now if that rifle happens to use the same magazine as your pistol, you would most likley be ok - note I said "most likley OK" Again I am not a law enforcement officer I only played one for 20+ years.

[bstrawse]

Let me be the first to ask "Who was your instructor ?"

OK the answer is NO you are only allowed to carry a handgun with your MN PTC !
Edit to finish - to quick on the send button.
If You carried a unloaded rifle in a proper case, you would be legal. Now if that rifle happens to use the same magazine as your pistol, you would most likley be ok - note I said "most likley OK" Again I am not a law enforcement officer I only played one for 20+ years.

Ok, so who was your instructor?

You can carry (as in outside of a vehicle) as many handguns or long guns that you wish. Loaded or unloaded, etc, etc.

If you're in your vehicle, then your permit allows you to carry handgun(s) - as many as you like or want to carry. However, you may not carry a loaded long gun in your vehicle (though, to be fair, the statutes conflict each other a bit on this).

Long Guns in public places
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=624.7181

Carry of a firearm with & without a permit
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=624.714

Transportation of a firearm
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=97B.045

So, if you want to load up your AR-15, sling it over your shoulder, and walk down Hennepin Avenue in broad daylight - and you have a Minnesota Permit, then you're good to go. But please call and let me know you're going to do this, because I want to videotape the reaction. (Note, I don't recommend this at all, but it is legal).

[bstrawse]

I have had my PTC since 2010 and carry daily. I have had people tel me that If I have a PTC I can carry all sorts of things.

LArge folding knives, fixed blade knives, samurai swords, rocket launchers...etc

Never gave it much thought as my Ex got the rocket launcher in the divorce. Anyway, I just picked up a sub 2000 and thought about keeping it in my truck. I looked up the law as best I could and it say I can have a rifle in my vehicle in a container made to carry a gun (or words to that effect)

My question is since I carry a Glock that uses the same magazines would I have a problem with the sub 2000 behind the seat and mags for my glock 27 with me in the front seat/console?

Thanks.

Also - your MN Permit to Carry does not cover knives (of any type) or swords. Just firearms.

B

[raggers]

I have had my PTC since 2010 and carry daily. I have had people tel me that If I have a PTC I can carry all sorts of things.

LArge folding knives, fixed blade knives, samurai swords, rocket launchers...etc

Never gave it much thought as my Ex got the rocket launcher in the divorce. Anyway, I just picked up a sub 2000 and thought about keeping it in my truck. I looked up the law as best I could and it say I can have a rifle in my vehicle in a container made to carry a gun (or words to that effect)

My question is since I carry a Glock that uses the same magazines would I have a problem with the sub 2000 behind the seat and mags for my glock 27 with me in the front seat/console?

Thanks.

You can carry any kind of firearm that is otherwise legal -- handgun, rifle, shotgun -- with a Minnesota Permit to Carry. You can carry more than one on your person. You can carry them openly or concealed. This information should have been part of your carry training.

That's firearms, by the way, not bladed weapons. Those may be prohibited.

[bstrawse]

You can carry any kind of firearm that is otherwise legal -- handgun, rifle, shotgun -- with a Minnesota Permit to Carry. You can carry more than one on your person. You can carry them openly or concealed. This information should have been part of your carry training.

That's firearms, by the way, not bladed weapons. Those may be prohibited.

MN 97B.045 (Transportation of a Firearm) prohibits the "carry" of a loaded long gun in a vehicle, even under a permit to carry.

This, of course, conflicts with two other statutes... but generally, test cases are for other people.

b

[gunsmith]

Urban Legend Dept: What about that rumor that a ptc in MINNEAPOLIS (the city) allowed you to carry an otherwise illegal long bladed knife?

In Wisconsin right after Heller / Mc Donald a Wisconsin judge ruled a citizen had a right to be 'armed' with a prohibited long blade knife. (county judge?)

[cobb]

I have had my PTC since 2010 and carry daily. I have had people tel me that If I have a PTC I can carry all sorts of things.

LArge folding knives, fixed blade knives, samurai swords, rocket launchers...etc

Never gave it much thought as my Ex got the rocket launcher in the divorce. Anyway, I just picked up a sub 2000 and thought about keeping it in my truck. I looked up the law as best I could and it say I can have a rifle in my vehicle in a container made to carry a gun (or words to that effect)

My question is since I carry a Glock that uses the same magazines would I have a problem with the sub 2000 behind the seat and mags for my glock 27 with me in the front seat/console?

Thanks.

Did any of you read this?

I do not discuss rocket launchers in my class, not even the carry of samurai swords..... and the response is to ask who was your instructor?

The ex got the rocket launcher in the divorce....

[jgalt]

Well, the crack about rocket launchers was clearly sarcasm, so it is pretty easy to let that bit go...

[illbits]

Also - your MN Permit to Carry does not cover knives (of any type) or swords. Just firearms.

B

As a side note, the statute restricting carry of knives in the city of Minneapolis has an exemption for carry permit holders acting "within the scope of their permit." Other cities may have similar language in their statutes.

[jdege]

You can carry any kind of firearm that is otherwise legal -- handgun, rifle, shotgun -- with a Minnesota Permit to Carry

And don't forget BB guns!

Minn. Stat. 624.7181 RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES.

Subdivision 1.Definitions. For purposes of this section, the following terms have the meanings given them.

(a) "BB gun" means a device that fires or ejects a shot measuring .18 of an inch or less in diameter.

(b) "Carry" does not include:


(1) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun to, from, or at a place where firearms are repaired, bought, sold, traded, or displayed, or where hunting, target shooting, or other lawful activity involving firearms occurs, or at funerals, parades, or other lawful ceremonies;

(2) the carrying by a person of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun that is unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, if the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and no portion of the firearm is exposed;

(3) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun by a person who has a permit under section 624.714;

(4) the carrying of an antique firearm as a curiosity or for its historical significance or value; or

(5) the transporting of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun in compliance with section 97B.045.

(c) "Public place" means property owned, leased, or controlled by a governmental unit and private property that is regularly and frequently open to or made available for use by the public in sufficient numbers to give clear notice of the property's current dedication to public use but does not include: a person's dwelling house or premises, the place of business owned or managed by the person, or land possessed by the person; a gun show, gun shop, or hunting or target shooting facility; or the woods, fields, or waters of this state where the person is present lawfully for the purpose of hunting or target shooting or other lawful activity involving firearms.

Subd. 2.Penalties. Whoever carries a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun on or about the person in a public place is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. A person under the age of 21 who carries a semiautomatic military-style assault weapon, as defined in section 624.712, subdivision 7, on or about the person in a public place is guilty of a felony.

Subd. 3.Exceptions. This section does not apply to officers, employees, or agents of law enforcement agencies or the armed forces of this state or the United States, or private detectives or protective agents, to the extent that these persons are authorized by law to carry firearms and are acting in the scope of their official duties.

[Squib Joe]

Urban Legend Dept: What about that rumor that a ptc in MINNEAPOLIS (the city) allowed you to carry an otherwise illegal long bladed knife?

Minneapolis Ordinance 393.10 seems to allow it but Minnesota 609.66 ( "Dangerous Weapons Law" ) does not. Untested.

[DaZhi]

609.66 only explicitly makes automatic knives and brass knuckles illegal. Otherwise, it doesn't actually make carrying any kind of knife illegal, unless used to harm someone, or for illegal purposes.

609.66 DANGEROUS WEAPONS.
Subdivision 1.Misdemeanor and gross misdemeanor crimes. (a) Whoever does any of the following is guilty of a crime and may be sentenced as provided in paragraph (b):
1) recklessly handles or uses a gun or other dangerous weapon or explosive so as to endanger the safety of another; or
(2) intentionally points a gun of any kind, capable of injuring or killing a human being and whether loaded or unloaded, at or toward another; or
(3) manufactures or sells for any unlawful purpose any weapon known as a slungshot or sand club; or
(4) manufactures, transfers, or possesses metal knuckles or a switch blade knife opening automatically; or
(5) possesses any other dangerous article or substance for the purpose of being used unlawfully as a weapon against another; or
(6) outside of a municipality and without the parent's or guardian's consent, furnishes a child under 14 years of age, or as a parent or guardian permits the child to handle or use, outside of the parent's or guardian's presence, a firearm or airgun of any kind, or any ammunition or explosive.
Possession of written evidence of prior consent signed by the minor's parent or guardian is a complete defense to a charge under clause (6).
(b) A person convicted under paragraph (a) may be sentenced as follows:
(1) if the act was committed in a public housing zone, as defined in section 152.01, subdivision 19, a school zone, as defined in section 152.01, subdivision 14a, or a park zone, as defined in section 152.01, subdivision 12a, to imprisonment for not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both; or
(2) otherwise, including where the act was committed on residential premises within a zone described in clause (1) if the offender was at the time an owner, tenant, or invitee for a lawful purpose with respect to those residential premises, to imprisonment for not more than 90 days or to payment of a fine of not more than $1,000, or both.

Also,

As a side note, the statute restricting carry of knives in the city of Minneapolis has an exemption for carry permit holders acting "within the scope of their permit." Other cities may have similar language in their statutes.

Not just knives, but weapons defined as:

Weapon means any device designed as a weapon and capable of producing death, great bodily harm, or substantial bodily harm; or any other device or instrumentality which, in the manner it is used or intended to be used, is calculated or likely to produce death, great bodily harm, or substantial bodily harm, or the reasonable and immediate fear thereof. "Weapon" includes Chinese stars. "Weapon" does not include (1) except when used as a weapon, a folding knife with a blade of four (4) inches or less in length, measured in a straight line from the point to the handle; or (2) a firearm, unless expressly included by section 393.20(b).]

Better get out those backup throwing stars!

[Seismic Sam]

Did any of you read this?

I do not discuss rocket launchers in my class, not even the carry of samurai swords..... and the response is to ask who was your instructor?

The ex got the rocket launcher in the divorce....

Obviously you have never gotten divorced before!! The EX always gets to keep all the cool stuff, even if she doesn't want it, just to spite you...

So the response should have been: "Who was your divorce lawyer??" Sheesh!!

[Holland&Holland]

Obviously you have never gotten divorced before!! The EX always gets to keep all the cool stuff, even if she doesn't want it, just to spite you...

So the response should have been: "Who was your divorce lawyer??" Sheesh!!

Ain't that the truth