MN PTC does this just cover pistols?

[jgalt]

Working just with the last few posts:

mrp is absolutely correct and crystal clear in his explanation - as are jdege, xd Ed & bstrawse...

cobb made the comment earlier re: test cases - the way I like to put it is that test cases are for rich, bored people. If you are not both, and can handle the potential consequences (i.e. money spent on a court case & possible incarceration should you lose), then I recommend against taking any action you have reason to believe might put you in that situation.

So, the real question you have to answer before strapping on a loaded long gun when you are not hunting & clearly following the DNR regs, is this - do you believe this action has a decent (or better) chance of getting you at least stopped by the police and potentially charged by a DA? If your answer is "yes", and you are not both rich & bored, then I'd avoid it.

If your answer is "no", I'd suggest you think again...

Also, while I generally despise the concept of avoiding something you are OK with because of how it might cause others to be perceived, the political reality right now certainly seems to be exactly as bstrawse described it, and the chances of not only getting charged & tried for carrying a loaded long gun are at least decent, but so are the chances of becoming the reason for a law change that might actually pass. It is both rediculous and sad, but it is what it is...

Finally, all of the above is based on the assumption that this statute has not been tested. ttousi back on the 2nd page indicated that it has in fact been tested but did not give a reference. I trust what he writes on the subject of permits as in my experience he knows what he is talking about, but maybe he can help clear up some of this confusion by posting a link to the test case in question, especially since the rest of us seem to think it hasn't been tested...?

[Thunderjohn]

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And with DFL control in both houses, a DFL governor, and two chairs (Paymar - House, Latz - Senate) that would like nothing else than to push a gun control agenda (and tried, hard, in 2013 to do so), this would be a spectacularly unwise move.
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And with Mr Bloomberg still having his sights set on a few key states, MN included, we don't need to help him out.

[driztan]

Every year in our DNR Hunter safety class we get asked about the PTC clause.

The CO who usually comes to each class has repeatedly stated NO YOU CAN NOT USE YOUR PTC TO TRANSPORT YOUR LOADED DEER RIFLE!!!
You can transport an unloaded rifle, shotgun or handgun out of a case in areas with less than 2500 population ,and NOT in the 5 county area around Minneapolis, ST paul other wise it must be unloaded and cased in a container made to transport firearms. Not your pillow case either, a manufactured for firearms case!

This is stated in the DNR transport regs, sorry I don't have time to search them to post a link.

You are okay to carry your handgun loaded in your car, truck only if you have a permit to carry . The subject of knives never has came up, nor has rocket launchers LOL!!!

Benny

This thread as many others just go to show how bad we do need reform with firearm laws, and tax laws, and obamacare laws, need I continue..... They are so confusion 100 people have 101 opinions.

Not your pillow case either, a manufactured for firearms case!

Not to nit pick, but this information is NOT correct. Who is going to judge what is a manufactured for firearms case LOL. The firearm just needs to be covered. And you want to make sure it doesn't come uncovered and someone else sees it. There is no legal definition of what is manufactured firearm case LOL. My woman knitts me gun socks durning the winter months that I transport firearms with all the time. I have friends and family in LE and ATF. As they have told me, a blanket on top is just fine, but make sure it doesn't get exposed, cause a liberal driver passing by might see it, call the police and say a crazy man was waving a gun at me? Trouble? you bet ya.

[ttousi]

From DNR Regs

http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regula ... =bookmarks

Firearms Transportation
unless transporting under the exceptions listed below, a person may not
transport a firearm, including a handgun, in or on a motor vehicle unless the
firearm is:
•
unloaded* and in a case made expressly for that purpose;
•
unloaded* and in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle; or
•
carried under a valid permit to carry a pistol or handgun.
under the following circumstances, a person may transport unloaded,
uncased fir rearms (excluding pistols) in a motor vehicle, including ATVs:
•
while at a shooting range with permission
•
while lawfully hunting on private or public land or while travelling to
or from a site the person intends to hunt or trap or has lawfully hunted
that day.
Firearms must be transported unloaded and cased:
•
within Anoka, Hennepin, or Ramsey counties.
•
within the boundaries of a home rule, charter, or statutory city with a
population of 2,500 or more.
• on school grounds
•
as otherwise restricted in game refuges, shining or night vision laws

Kinda leaves out the blanket loosely covering idea...........the CO's have told me they have some discretion........better hope you get one who uses a lot of discretion

[RobD]

MN PTC has nothing to do with long guns, neither carrying them nor transporting them.

You're wrong.

[Hmac]

MN PTC has nothing to do with long guns, neither carrying them nor transporting them.

You're wrong.

Yes.

[xd ED]

[loose]

Anyone know what ever happened with that? There was talks of open carry protests and what not but never heard anything of it.

[Makarov]

loose
Anyone know what ever happened with that?
Click on the [UPDATE BELOW] link on the video for answers.


As far as transporting a firearm in MN, and "covering with just a blanket":
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=97b.045

97B.045 TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS.
Subdivision 1.Restrictions.
A person may not transport a firearm in a motor vehicle unless the firearm is:

(1) unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, and the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and without any portion of the firearm exposed;

(2) unloaded and in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle; or
(3) a handgun carried in compliance with sections 624.714 and 624.715.

Bold above is mine.
I believe that is a very clear definition of gun case for transporting.

[loose]

Ha there it is, thanks, was looking with my man eyes as the old lady would say.

[Uffdaphil]

loose
Anyone know what ever happened with that?
Click on the [UPDATE BELOW] link on the video for answers.


As far as transporting a firearm in MN, and "covering with just a blanket":
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=97b.045

97B.045 TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS.
Subdivision 1.Restrictions.
A person may not transport a firearm in a motor vehicle unless the firearm is:

(1) unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, and the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and without any portion of the firearm exposed;

(2) unloaded and in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle; or
(3) a handgun carried in compliance with sections 624.714 and 624.715.

Bold above is mine.
I believe that is a very clear definition of gun case for transporting.

Boy, that is not at all clear to me. It sounds like gun must be enclosed in case in the back of SUV, but merely unloaded in closed trunk.

[cobb]

It sounds like gun must be enclosed in case in the back of SUV, ....

If in a case that complies with the law, that cased firearm can be in the front seat with you. There is no requirement for a legally cased gun to be in the back of a SUV.