Idiot scratches

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Idiot scratches

Postby CraigJS on Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:36 am

Not being a 1911 guy, question, how does a 1911 get an "idiot scratch"? Just being careless in reassembly? Most I've seen look like the person has NO reason to own a gun, then take it apart if they have THAT little skill..
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby Ranger01 on Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:40 am

Carelessness, inexperience, or (most commonly) accident. One 1911 I have, the plunger is very stiff and the slide stop is very square and cannot be pressed in straight, it requires an "up and in" motion. A previous owner, with less dexterity, scratched it during reassembly.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby sawgrass on Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:49 am

Notching the slide stop pin goes a long ways in avoiding the scratch. It makes reassembly much easier.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby Ranger01 on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:50 am

Uea, Ive seen the mod, but since I'm selling it anyways it's not a big deal.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby 2in2out on Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:02 am

I've never owned a 1911, and had never heard of this. Sorry for being ignorant, but my strain of that disease can be cured…. ;)

Found some helpful info on "the Google":
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=231003
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby MnHornet on Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:03 am

On my most recent 1911 the plunger was not really free willy in the tube.
I can't blame the previous owner, the sticky plunger made it a bitch.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby mmcnx2 on Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:44 am

As someone with 5 1911s, we call them idiot scratches becuase they are from idiots that don't know how to reassemble a 1911. Yes the plunger on some are pretty stiff but that is what they make tools for. Either fix the plunger, slide lock or use a tool to depress

Equates to using a hammer to install a screw, you can make it go in but in the end it will never be right.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby CraigJS on Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:51 pm

Seems with the price of newer 1911s, they should mod that area a bit. IMHO you shouldn't have to mod or use tools to disassemble your pistol. Not very field friendly..
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby Snowgun on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:20 pm

Working on the plunger to make it less stiff is first for sure, but notching or beveling the slide stop where it interacts with the plunger is great as well, just don't jack it up so it doesn't function with the follower on your magazines....
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby LumberZach on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:33 pm

I have been careful not to do this, but I don't see it as much of a big deal. I don't have any collectable 1911's, but guns get scratched. as long as nothing makes the gun perform less than optimal, it isn't a big deal.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby thunderoussilence on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:48 pm

Get a Glock, I meant use a gentle buffing compound, I once experienced a person who welded sights to slide....I have no Idea why. Then the person added to the hammer :doh: once again......I just shake my head and then get to fixin.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby Pat on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:53 pm

Nighthawk makes this notch standard on all its pistols.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby CraigJS on Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:58 am

For a steep price.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby sawgrass on Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:33 am

Pat wrote:Nighthawk makes this notch standard on all its pistols.


Guncrafters and Wilsons have it too.

Here's a link and a picture.

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=305893

and another one.

http://www.1911addicts.com/showthread.p ... idiot-mark.

Like fitting a trigger, go slow and check often.
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Re: Idiot scratches

Postby Thunder71 on Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:50 am

Happens when you get home early from work and rush to install 'X' modification before the wife gets home.

...or so I've heard.
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