Glock 42

[jp8775]

I just checked my distributor, also looked around on the net and it looks like the MSR is around $775 for the 41. Understand that the MSR is a suggested price. If you have the only one in town, its going to be high. The reason I do not sell guns to the general public, is if you piss off 1 person it will spread like wild fire. The best thing to do is to just wait until the price and supply stabilizes.

[Thunderjohn]

I am a dealer. Gun stop had one a few days ago may still have call Larry.

I was in on Wed and he had none. Said they ran about $629. I think I'll wait a while to see what their pricing does as they become more available. Thanks

There's no way around it: it may be "legal", but there's no question that that is price gouging. I've heard enough already about gun stop (I'm new to Minnesota), none of it good, but your post is reinforcement that I will NEVER set foot in there. Ownership should be ashamed of themselves.

** Hold on. There are 2 threads and prices going on here. Don't mix up the price on the 42 with the 41.

We're getting the prices mixed up on the 41 & the 42. Don't condemn Larry until you check prices. He's always fair.
I sell the 42 at $429.99 + tax, cash, which I see at other shops and is what the price will be when they're available in quantity.

Dealer cost on the 41 is the same as the cost on the Gen4 34 & 35. I sell them at $649.99 + tax, cash, same as the 34 & 35.
That price will also stay when they're readily available. Not seeing any price gouging anywhere locally.

[jp8775]

I talked to Larry today, he said he sold the 41 he had for $629 and I though that was fair. I have never known Larry to ever gouge anyone. I still believe he is one of the most honest gun dealer's I have ever met. I buy guns from him when I can't get them wholesale anywhere else. I felt bad that some one said they would not go back to him, I say give him another chance we need all the gun dealer we can have in the cities.

[Randygmn]

Oh boy. My mistake. Thunder john figured out where I went wrong. I read $629 and thought that was the price of the 42. My mistake. I'm terribly sorry for the mischarecterization.

[Jack's My dog]

There's no way around it: it may be "legal", but there's no question that that is price gouging. I've heard enough already about gun stop (I'm new to Minnesota), none of it good, but your post is reinforcement that I will NEVER set foot in there. Ownership should be ashamed of themselves.

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Not entirely sure, but I believe "Gun stop" is occupied by 2 separate businesses, the reloading business and the gun shop. If I am I am mistakes, someone please correct me. Each business should be "judged" for its own merits.

[BigDog58]

Thanks John, I guess I'll keep my eye out for one. I'm not quite ready to buy one just yet, but it is going to be my next pistol. Once I know whether I actually going to be able to compete in pistol competitions this spring or not, that will drive my time to purchase one. I plan for this to be my competition gun.

Thanks everyone

[jp8775]

There's no way around it: it may be "legal", but there's no question that that is price gouging. I've heard enough already about gun stop (I'm new to Minnesota), none of it good, but your post is reinforcement that I will NEVER set foot in there. Ownership should be ashamed of themselves.

Not entirely sure, but I believe "Gun stop" is occupied by 2 separate businesses, the reloading business and the gun shop. If I am I am mistakes, someone please correct me. Each business should be "judged" for its own merits.[/quote]
That is correct, Larry owns the gun side and John owns the reloading side. It is clearly two separately owned and managed businesses. confusion is same name except one says Gun Stop reloading.

[Thunderjohn]

A couple comp's of the G42 and Ruger LCP

[jp8775]

I feel the 42 is best compared apples to apples, every one wants to compare it to the LCP. I think it is best compared to guns in the size of the PPK the like. It was said to offer an alternative to the 9mm for those who do not like the recoil of a 9mm 12 oz gun such as women and older people. But as long as some are comparing it to the LCP, would and one care to compare the failure to feed and jamb reputation of the LCP to the 42? Some one said they ran 700 through it, I have run as of yesterday at least 450 factory rounds with one FTF, and then 400 rounds of my own reloads with out 1 FTF or jamb. As I said earlier in this tread, function is important to me. I do not want to carry a gun that has a history of jamming. I am letting anyone who wants to shoot mine with their ammo in my classes, we will see how many more rounds go through it tomorrow. I know that it so far beats hands down my wife's PPK for reliability. Go check the internet for jamming reports on LCP's over the last 5 years also about its desire for certain types of ammo. I think we should keep it apples to apples. Or not I really do not care.

[Thunderjohn]

Joe,
I'm comparing it to the LCP in size because everyone was under the impression it was going to be the same size.
It's basically the same size as the XDs9 & 45.
I agree that it's made for very recoil sensitive people. Otherwise why carry a 380 in that size?

I don't believe much I read on the net especially when people gripe about guns.
I've had the LCP, 738TCP, PM9 and others without any failures. Others have had different results.

I'm not trying to bash the 42. Just simply showing size comparisons, the first of which
was with the XDs.

[Evad]

I feel the 42 is best compared apples to apples, every one wants to compare it to the LCP. I think it is best compared to guns in the size of the PPK the like. It was said to offer an alternative to the 9mm for those who do not like the recoil of a 9mm 12 oz gun such as women and older people. But as long as some are comparing it to the LCP, would and one care to compare the failure to feed and jamb reputation of the LCP to the 42? Some one said they ran 700 through it, I have run as of yesterday at least 450 factory rounds with one FTF, and then 400 rounds of my own reloads with out 1 FTF or jamb. As I said earlier in this tread, function is important to me. I do not want to carry a gun that has a history of jamming. I am letting anyone who wants to shoot mine with their ammo in my classes, we will see how many more rounds go through it tomorrow. I know that it so far beats hands down my wife's PPK for reliability. Go check the internet for jamming reports on LCP's over the last 5 years also about its desire for certain types of ammo. I think we should keep it apples to apples. Or not I really do not care.

Wouldn't it be apples to apples to compare it to other popular .380 choices? Seems it is a direct competitor to the LCP. Thankfully, my LCP has been 100% perfect. Maybe the original owner took care of all the break in for me.

Thanks for the pics TJ!

[jp8775]

I am not implying any bashing, god knows a glock is going to get bashed just because its a glock. How ever I am not sure who said this was ever going to be small as a LCP. Its dimensions have always been published since it was released in reviews weeks ago. So if anyone thought they would be that small did not or could not read very well. I like the pictures comparing, as long as people realize it was never meant to go after the LCP market. I just noticed people saying they will keep on carrying the LCP as if that was Glock intent. As far as the if I am going to carry a 9mm if its as big as a 9mm similar gun argument, again it was meant to offer an alternative to recoil, I failed to see any reference to size competition from glock anywhere. I think most people carry what they like and don't care what some one else feels, but there are some people for some unknown reason feel they have to get you to like their gun in order for them to be able to like is also. I have no other way to explain it. Any way I am trying to stay focused on the performance of this gun. If and when it starts to fail I will be honest. I have the ability to run large amounts of ammo through new guns with the help of my students. I did take my 42 apart after the 1 FTF. I found it to be too dry for me. I re-applied copper coat on the rails, oil it where glock suggests and grease on the trigger connector at the right rear top of the slide. It even felt better when I racked it for the first time. So I would suggest looking at the oil on the gun as it comes as insufficient at least mine was I feel. I have carried nothing but this since I got it. Way easier than my 19 was and more reliable than my BD9 or DB380.

[jp8775]

I feel the 42 is best compared apples to apples, every one wants to compare it to the LCP. I think it is best compared to guns in the size of the PPK the like. It was said to offer an alternative to the 9mm for those who do not like the recoil of a 9mm 12 oz gun such as women and older people. But as long as some are comparing it to the LCP, would and one care to compare the failure to feed and jamb reputation of the LCP to the 42? Some one said they ran 700 through it, I have run as of yesterday at least 450 factory rounds with one FTF, and then 400 rounds of my own reloads with out 1 FTF or jamb. As I said earlier in this tread, function is important to me. I do not want to carry a gun that has a history of jamming. I am letting anyone who wants to shoot mine with their ammo in my classes, we will see how many more rounds go through it tomorrow. I know that it so far beats hands down my wife's PPK for reliability. Go check the internet for jamming reports on LCP's over the last 5 years also about its desire for certain types of ammo. I think we should keep it apples to apples. Or not I really do not care.

"Wouldn't it be apples to apples to compare it to other popular .380 choices? Seems it is a direct competitor to the LCP. Thankfully, my LCP has been 100% perfect. Maybe the original owner took care of all the break in for me."


No: So just because it a .380 its a direct competitor? LCP is in the mouse gun category I have never seen a 42 called a mouse gun.

[Randygmn]

I feel the 42 is best compared apples to apples, every one wants to compare it to the LCP. I think it is best compared to guns in the size of the PPK the like. It was said to offer an alternative to the 9mm for those who do not like the recoil of a 9mm 12 oz gun such as women and older people. But as long as some are comparing it to the LCP, would and one care to compare the failure to feed and jamb reputation of the LCP to the 42? Some one said they ran 700 through it, I have run as of yesterday at least 450 factory rounds with one FTF, and then 400 rounds of my own reloads with out 1 FTF or jamb. As I said earlier in this tread, function is important to me. I do not want to carry a gun that has a history of jamming. I am letting anyone who wants to shoot mine with their ammo in my classes, we will see how many more rounds go through it tomorrow. I know that it so far beats hands down my wife's PPK for reliability. Go check the internet for jamming reports on LCP's over the last 5 years also about its desire for certain types of ammo. I think we should keep it apples to apples. Or not I really do not care.

"Wouldn't it be apples to apples to compare it to other popular .380 choices? Seems it is a direct competitor to the LCP. Thankfully, my LCP has been 100% perfect. Maybe the original owner took care of all the break in for me."


No: So just because it a .380 its a direct competitor? LCP is in the mouse gun category I have never seen a 42 called a mouse gun.

I will say this about comparing the 42 to the other .380 mouse guns: its a hell of a lot more accurate and a lot less snappy, which is key to follow up shots. The ONLY advantage the lcp, body guard, etc, has, is size. Recoil, accuracy and lack of malfunctions will favor the glock. I'm the guy who put the 720 rounds through mine already. Part of carrying a firearm everyday is being intimately familiar with it. I know people who own lcps and other really small .380's, who have owned them for a few years, who haven't yet ran 500 rounds through them yet. It's impossible to get proficient with a firearm without shooting it, a lot. The number 1 excuse I hear is that its no fun to shoot. But, without the experience, the muscle memory won't be there when its needed.

[Evad]

No: So just because it a .380 its a direct competitor? LCP is in the mouse gun category I have never seen a 42 called a mouse gun.

Ok. I am going to try one last time. What would you find it comparable to? Last I recall you were comparing it to larger caliber alternatives. Let's say apples to apples here. Teach me something. Don't tell me how it's better than the LCP then say it isn't fair to compare them.