10 day waiting period

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Re: Re: 10 day waiting period

Postby ex-LT on Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:02 am

LarryFlew wrote:PTP typically takes longer than PTC so your 7 day wait doesn't correlate to PTP. Carver cty was 4 days including 3pm drop of paperwork and mail time for PTC but PTP for an acquaintance was 14.

According to the BCA website...

... the law enforcement agency must notify you of its status within seven days of receipt.


Unfortunately, the law has no provision for penalizing agencies for disregarding/ignoring the seven day period, so approval can quite often take in excess of the required seven days.
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Re: Re: 10 day waiting period

Postby Grayskies on Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:32 pm

ex-LT wrote:
LarryFlew wrote:PTP typically takes longer than PTC so your 7 day wait doesn't correlate to PTP. Carver cty was 4 days including 3pm drop of paperwork and mail time for PTC but PTP for an acquaintance was 14.

According to the BCA website...

... the law enforcement agency must notify you of its status within seven days of receipt.


Unfortunately, the law has no provision for penalizing agencies for disregarding/ignoring the seven day period, so approval can quite often take in excess of the required seven days.

I find it interesting that they usually remember to add penalties for us citizen types, yet when the government violates the law there is none.

Just a hypathetical; supose some police chief decides he doesn't like you (you dumped his sister or something) and refuse to issue you a ptp or he is a gun banner and will not issue ptps to anyone?
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Re: Re: 10 day waiting period

Postby Randygmn on Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:43 pm

Grayskies wrote:
ex-LT wrote:
LarryFlew wrote:PTP typically takes longer than PTC so your 7 day wait doesn't correlate to PTP. Carver cty was 4 days including 3pm drop of paperwork and mail time for PTC but PTP for an acquaintance was 14.

According to the BCA website...

... the law enforcement agency must notify you of its status within seven days of receipt.


Unfortunately, the law has no provision for penalizing agencies for disregarding/ignoring the seven day period, so approval can quite often take in excess of the required seven days.

I find it interesting that they usually remember to add penalties for us citizen types, yet when the government violates the law there is none.

Just a hypathetical; supose some police chief decides he doesn't like you (you dumped his sister or something) and refuse to issue you a ptp or he is a gun banner and will not issue ptps to anyone?


Minnesota is shall issue not May issue.
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Re: 10 day waiting period

Postby Grayskies on Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:55 pm

I know MN is shall issue, I was out at the capitol for the rallies trying to get the law passed way back when.

ptp or p2p=permit to purchase not permit to carry (that would be ptc or p2c).

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=624.7131

There is no penelty I can find for the issuing officer if they refuse to approve or deny the application.

Meh, probably argued this one before, brain is getting old (probably safe from Zombies), anyway probably ends up with expensive law suit...
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Re: 10 day waiting period

Postby grimbeaver on Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:25 pm

The DPS website says:
If you are applying for a permit to transfer the law enforcement agency must notify you of its status within seven days of receipt.

Now there's that check box at the top that you check "purchase" or "transfer". So technically it seems only the "transfer" applications have to be approved within 7 days?

There are ways around it though obviously. Brooklyn Park says they only officially "accept" them on Tuesdays and your 7 days starts from the next Tuesday. However I turned mine in a few years ago on a Thursday it was in my mailbox the following Monday. A friend recently got his from Maple Grove and I think he turned it in Thursday and had it the following Tuesday. He had to pick it up at the police station though. Gotta wonder if mail or pickup is the norm.
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Re: 10 day waiting period

Postby Snakeman721 on Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:19 pm

Coon Rapids calls and you have to physically pick it up, probably because they take a copy of your drivers license when you're there.
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